Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 622-007
Date: Monday, November 22, 1971 at 4:15 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); MacGregor, Clark
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/622-007

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[0:52] Is that, is that gonna be the old man?
[1:19] If he does, then that'll give Matthias, uh, heat and sludge and stuff.
[1:21] I think I'm gonna have to hold him now.
[1:22] Well, you gotta hold up your thighs.
[1:39] Boy, I swear to God, why does he do that?
[1:42] You think there's really any chance to beat him?
[1:53] It doesn't make any difference as far as the ego is concerned.
[2:02] What is bad?
[2:03] What the hell is the difference?
[2:04] I mean, so it doesn't make a lot of difference there.
[2:06] I can't see that at all.
[2:09] In fact, basically, it's not that well-known.
[2:14] It would be a hell of a lot worse if it were Republicans.
[2:16] But there are more Democrats than Republicans.
[2:17] Although Republicans probably have more sense to do it than the Indians.
[2:29] As far as our boats are concerned, if you had it straight up and down, we still think you would pick up.
[2:33] If you got all the revolving engine, that would be 44.
[2:39] That would be 49.
[3:18] I don't think I've got any other candidates.
[3:37] I can't do it.
[3:38] Yeah.
[3:38] Close that joint.
[3:38] Go there!
[3:44] Mr. 49, well, you had a good fight anyway.
[3:49] You got it.
[3:50] Well, you still have a hole in the spot.
[3:59] Yes, sir.
[3:59] What is the situation as to after it goes, and then does it go immediately to Congress?
[4:05] Is this the last minute?
[4:26] I see.
[4:50] And they go to conference and Mills looks up to them and then comes to them.
[4:52] Yeah.
[4:52] Yeah.
[4:52] Well, how did you see them?
[4:52] I mean, you know, I don't think that's what they're looking at.
[4:54] All right, all right.
[4:55] Yeah.
[5:10] Same thing.
[5:11] You just don't trust me.
[5:11] I hear you.
[5:33] Well, it is.
[5:34] You know, it's in a very different sense.
[5:38] But it is, when you have anything like this,
[5:44] It's sort of a check-off or whatever it is.
[5:50] It's like the huge news.
[5:52] It's like the withholding on income tax and the rest.
[5:57] Why don't you have it?
[5:59] They don't think anything about it.
[6:00] So people, it would simply mean that the money goes, and then it will greatly strengthen the party losses, which is bad, too.
[6:06] Don't you agree?
[6:17] You know, of course, you're crazy.
[6:23] The other side, it removes all the pressure of people that give money.
[6:34] That's their argument.
[6:35] You have it.
[6:52] You're a fucking good fighter, I must say.
[6:56] Yeah, but the Spawnman's in service.
[6:59] He obviously converted on us, but here you...
[7:04] I suppose so.
[7:05] But he's afraid he wouldn't be the nomination, isn't he?
[7:07] He didn't throw him out.
[7:17] The herd is working on it.
[7:25] Yeah, we're going to go out of action, that's for sure.
[7:40] And isn't that somehow that whole line on the Southern Democrats?
[7:45] Well, I guess it's an achievement to declare that you can get it forward, you know, on a party matter.
[7:48] Let's say McLaughlin, of course, he's a sound guy, and Eastman's a sound man.
[7:53] Sam Irvin's a constitutionalist, that's why he's doing it.
[7:55] very various constitutions, that's for John Sennest to, yeah.
[8:09] Well, God damn it, if you had to, you can't drop a month down.
[8:16] There's no way you can go through that time again.
[8:17] Just put it in there and say, yes, you've got a condition to do so, or else, I haven't seen the first one.
[8:25] I said, man, it's a good boat in here.
[8:39] Thank you very much.
[8:40] And they lose.
[8:40] Oh, that breaks the game.
[8:42] That breaks the game.
[8:44] Oh, hell, of course.
[8:45] Yeah.
[8:45] What would you tell him?
[8:46] Mm-hmm.
[8:52] Mm-hmm.
[8:52] Mm-hmm.
[9:19] I guess that, uh, enthusiasm we have is certainly going to be, uh, to the end.
[9:36] In fact, it'll, uh, it'll swell, I suppose.
[9:37] I don't know.
[9:37] I don't know.
[9:38] Yeah.
[9:38] Keep safe out there.
[9:39] I'll be right back.