{"conversationCode":"623-005","tapeNumber":623,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-623-005","startDateTime":"1971-11-23T16:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-23T16:47:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Nov-1971","startTime":"11:43 AM","endDate":"23-Nov-1971","endTime":"11:47 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brock, William;","description":"On November 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William Brock met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:43 am to 11:47 am. 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(President)","Brock, William"],"prevCode":"623-004","nextCode":"623-006","transcript":[{"start":3.86,"end":27.64,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.98,"end":54.05,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":66.91,"end":74.8,"text":"It won't."},{"start":74.82,"end":85.46,"text":"They're going to leave the political agenda."},{"start":85.48,"end":86.88,"text":"And that would change the whole constitutional system in this country."},{"start":86.9,"end":87.48,"text":"That is what it gets down to."},{"start":87.5,"end":87.76,"text":"That's right."},{"start":87.78,"end":89.21,"text":"And despite the fact that they do it, they're supposed to check it off."},{"start":89.23,"end":89.59,"text":"They don't really."},{"start":89.61,"end":90.25,"text":"It doesn't work that way either."},{"start":91.41,"end":106.65,"text":"They individually, they aren't making a conscious decision with regard to the candidate, they don't know who he is yet."},{"start":106.67,"end":106.75,"text":"Huh?"},{"start":106.77,"end":107.86,"text":"That's right, they're buying, they're going to vote."},{"start":107.88,"end":108,"text":"Right."},{"start":108.14,"end":113.16,"text":"And of course, it'll go on, if you say, if you know the cost of that, you're sure to be safe."},{"start":116.38,"end":124.89,"text":"It just means that they're gonna be"},{"start":146.25,"end":148.25,"text":"."},{"start":148.28,"end":150.66,"text":"."},{"start":150.68,"end":150.84,"text":"."},{"start":163.13,"end":163.15,"text":"."},{"start":163.17,"end":163.19,"text":"."},{"start":163.21,"end":165.07,"text":"."},{"start":165.15,"end":165.61,"text":"."},{"start":165.63,"end":165.65,"text":"."},{"start":166.96,"end":175.32,"text":"."},{"start":175.34,"end":175.37,"text":"."},{"start":176.09,"end":197.42,"text":"I'm sure you would have enjoyed my little conversation with your friends and me."},{"start":197.44,"end":198.06,"text":"Oh, it was great."},{"start":198.08,"end":198.68,"text":"I mean, it was great."},{"start":198.7,"end":199.16,"text":"I enjoyed it very much."},{"start":199.19,"end":202.23,"text":"He was acting like that, and so we had a good time."},{"start":207.71,"end":212.75,"text":"Well, tell him to go home tonight."},{"start":212.77,"end":215.62,"text":"Tell your wife that."},{"start":215.64,"end":215.8,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Senator William Brock engaged in a brief discussion concerning the political implications of electoral processes and the potential for shifts in the constitutional system. 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