{"conversationCode":"623-013","tapeNumber":623,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-623-013","startDateTime":"1971-11-23T18:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-23T20:07:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Nov-1971","startTime":"1:25 PM","endDate":"23-Nov-1971","endTime":"3:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"United States Secret Service agents; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On November 23, 1971, United States Secret Service agents and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 3:07 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 623-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 623-013\n\nDate: November 23, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:25 pm and 3:07 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nAn unknown man [Secret Service agency] talked with an unknown person.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Federal Statute (A) withdrawal. This segment was rereviewed 07/10/2019\nwith new guidance. Segment cleared for release.]\n[Federal Statute]\n[623-013-w001]\n[Duration: 8s]\n\n*****************************************************************","filename":["623-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:25:14","tapeEnd":"03:25:29","participantsList":["United States Secret Service agents","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"623-012","nextCode":"623-014","transcript":[{"start":2.39,"end":7.92,"text":"Mr. Grossman?"},{"start":7.94,"end":8.49,"text":"No, I'll get right in here."},{"start":8.51,"end":8.61,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Secret Service personnel coordinated an arrival or internal logistics move involving an individual referred to as Mr. Grossman within the Oval Office. The brief interaction focused on facilitating the visitor's entry into the space. No substantive policy discussions or significant political decisions were recorded during this exchange.","topics":["Secret Service","Logistics","Oval Office","Personnel Movement"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:08:52.364Z"},"topicSlugs":["secret-service","logistics","oval-office","personnel-movement"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"623-013.mp3","bytes":346112,"durationSec":8.57,"bitrate":323266,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.995Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:09.117Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/623-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/623-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/623/conversation-623-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}