Conversation 623-024

Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Go ahead.

Let me .

Yeah, that's all right.

All right.

Well, don't .

Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

He said .

Not here, my special one.

But I said, go ahead now.

Go ahead now.

We'll get together tomorrow.

It's going to follow, isn't it?

Yeah.

And I like it.

He's real solid.

He's in the middle of the road.

And he's going to make it.

You remember sitting over in the library, he said he was going to win.

Yeah.

I mean, he was way behind.

And I think that's right.

He's so smart.

Yeah.

The other thing is that

I want to talk to you about my meeting with the Chinese tonight because I do what you have in mind.

and that they'll deliver on.

Why don't you chat with, uh, I mean, uh, chat with, uh, Xavier to see, uh, how he, uh, how that, uh, we can, uh, force him to see what he, what he, you know, he has.

Yeah, I just wanted to talk to you for a minute about, about it, and then I think you might want to return.

Uh, good, but I intend to,

to do with the Chinese tonight.

I'll put what I did today, so that I got Cromer.

I said, since we helped on Rhodesia, I want to give him the analysis of the situation.

That we think that what India wants is not a settlement of East Pakistan, but the destruction of all of Pakistan.

And that we have been very generous on refugees, on humanitarian relief, and even on political accommodation.

The only thing we are not willing to do is have the thing accelerated in such a way that the whole political settlement of the subcontinent comes to pass.

And also that a country that's been allied with us is simply late.

And therefore, I said, if it comes to the UN, we would appreciate it if they would not take.

And all our positions are kept in line.

How could you pay relations with the Chinese?

where they wander up to India.

I have the same expression.

What we are facing in the state right now is an unbelievable situation.

There is no policy.

They are coming to every meeting.

And they're not actually sabotaging us, but it's like punching a sponge.

Now, the issue is Pakistan.

I'm a pro-Pakistan, anti-Indian.

They're wrong on the issue.

There's a lot of issues in the world where countries are wrong in which we don't intervene.

The enormous thing that the Nazi says, if that's only its overwhelming interest that China has in dealing with us, if it has one, is that we can be on the way with trapezius measures.

If we think out on an issue where one of their allies, with its Soviet and Indian collusion,

is being destroyed hardly with our help, which is practically a consequence of the state's position.

I mean, Ra's is what it always is.

Don't act precipitously.

Don't do anything.

Let the UN handle it.

Don't get involved.

Sure, we hate the Indians, but there isn't anything effective we can do.

All of which is true, and I'm not urging anything except that we make it quite clear

that if this thing goes to the UN, we tilt towards the Chinese side.

We don't have to go all the way there.

But we ought to condemn the military actions.

There's no excuse for those.

And also, this is a good way to distinguish ourselves from deliverance here.

Now, I don't find that anybody likes the Indians particularly, except to view Eastern intellectuals.

Now, this is the dispute.

If there is one, there's no actual dispute, except that...

So that we don't, so that I don't get good.

Why don't we get him held in the arms and mistrust him?

That would be the best thing.

It's amusing to me.

I told it about yesterday.

I thought Connolly would be the problem.

In fact, Schultz is more of a problem than Connolly.

Because he's an economist.

I mean, he knows.

He'll do what you decide.

But Connolly, really, once he understood the political issues, he's really perfect.

Well, I'm having him over here at 12 noon.

We've made a tenner.

So for 12 noon, it's fine.

How do you want to do it?

I have, uh, uh, have, uh, all of you just call me.

Why don't I call him?

Why don't you call him and say, well, at the end it's true, I'm tied up with the governor's sergeant.

And the government has said that it's true that this can't rush off the road.

And I say, you ought to talk with her.

Who do you want to have?

I don't know, sister.

Let's cut the three of us.

Just that you need an honest talk.

And we'll have a little culture.

We'll talk about it.

I'll talk.

By that time, you'll talk to Chinese.

Right.

And you, as you know, you're going to see the Chinese.

I can tell you tomorrow, you see.

Well, that you can decide.

Yeah.

What's your view?

Let's see what they're going to say.

Because we can, because we can handle it without, without anything being on record.

I don't know if the CD is free tomorrow at all.

But I want to read it.

I want to read up on it.

Good.

You'll do that later.

I'll say that if you want to send a paper.

No, this is it.

There's nothing to it.

He's got no paper, that's all.

I just say you're not free and you don't want to do handling on the cover.

I think that's the right way to do it.

I just want to raise with you what I want to discuss with the Chinese.

I want to give them our analysis of the situation along the line of what your thoughts will then come.

that we will not be able to go all the way with their resolutions, but we will urge a resolution condemning military aggression.

Right.

And that you have one, as I've already put so in line, that will cut off economic aid if there is an all-out aggression by India.

Right.

And our bare state will take violent exception out of that point at all.

Yeah.

so they wanted nothing but brown but brown i think we have to do it i think we've got to do it mr president not because it will do any good in this case but because if we have won to them and uh

And it may do some good if we do it early enough.

If they're fully permitted, it's too late.

I don't think so at all.

No, you told that we would not understand it, but I've told the ambassador on your behalf on one or two occasions.

All right.

I want to tell them to cool their rhetoric in New York.

And I've just found one article they may well find when Don goes there, which they mentioned you, and I want to tell them very sharply that they're inadmissible.

Our experience, Mr. President, has been that toughness is what they don't respect.

They don't respect

Soft people.

And I think that's true of the Indians, too.

If the Indians get away with this in the face of all of our warnings, their disdain for us will be totaled.

Well, what do you say, Senator?

Do you mind?

Any thanks, yes.

Well, I am told that before I leave this office, I... Well, there'll be another Westlake meeting, which I can then inform you of.

But we have to make a demonstration that we will do something for our friends.

or the Chinese will feel that we are just too weak a read even to consider the deal with.

And this happens to be almost the only issue in which we agree with the Chinese.

We don't have to go into the extremes of condemnation with them.

I would be a little softer than that.

I'm an active IT.

We'll listen, sir.

You're right.

What's, what is it, just the states, the states that call Indians out?

The state is pro-Indians.

And why and how does one think, and what they've done to us?

Well, Raja says, well, he'll tell you himself that he dislikes the Indians, but there's nothing effective we can do.

But then they never think that there's anything effective we can do anyway.

Well, I do that, so I understand.

We don't even want to cut the military assistance that we're giving them.

They said it isn't effective, but they sure as hell were willing to cut it apart with them.

Those are all the things.

You said you had a...

I didn't mind, uh, thinking we ought to re-evaluate the, uh, this Black American thing.

I dropped the theory.

The whole of it, and I discussed it, and I just think it might be all that ground down there.

Just, when I figured it was such a thing, I just can't take it anymore.

Uh, my theory...

I didn't know the meaning of that forum, and it's just seriously fine.

We're ambassadors, I just want to go in.

But, uh, Black America didn't solve it, and I'll be damned if I detect another one.

my fear mr president is first of all the impression of county landing when you've got all these uh meetings

I think also that on the Japanese side, I don't think there are trials for me.

I don't think that's too dumb.

I think the others say to Sato, condescend for me.

Absolutely.

I'll let you know.

You don't want to condescend for me?

He'll come to thank me.

I'll guarantee it.

That's a special deal.

I will part with you as far as I can.

Not a lot.

I agree.

And I ought to go over in January and say, as we've practically promised them, because it's symbolically helpful to them, and after what the Chinese did in having Fan Landong there, they kind of let you out, or having a consultation with Sato, and it would help Sato at all.

The Chinese are playing a hard game, so we

They're still going to go forward on their meeting.

But we've got to.

I think we have to go.

But we're all concerned.

The Russians have got to have it because of the Chinese.

Oh, there's no problem.

That's what I mean.

And we send a message.

That's right.

Every time in Peking, well, you read it yourself when you read the transcripts.

Every time that Zhou Enlai stepped out of line, I'd let him have it.

And I'd ease off again.

But, uh...

So you still don't feel I can fight off with these governors?

I mean, there's two of these governors that come in.

But, President, I think you've made the right decision on both of these.

My major concern is that the Latin Americans should be able to take this case.

Physically exhausting.

But nothing good can come out of this.

I don't see it.

If I try to make this damn way about it,

But you'd have to listen to all these characters.

They're a bunch of louts.

And you've got guys like Aliette and Velasco and all these... To get all of them a grant standing at your expense, I wouldn't run the risk.

Let Bill hold a meeting of foreign ministers up here if you want.

I'll attend it.

Well, if you decide to speak to it, I would not have made myself responsible for what comes out of the goddamn meeting, because there's a good chance that nothing comes out of it.

I think you can give a major speech to it, if you want to.

Okay, good.

I'll report to you tomorrow.

Great progress.

We'll get there at 12 o'clock tomorrow.

I'll send you a copy of this.

Okay.

This is a letter to you from Henry Anna Goldgren-Walsh, who says, as you know, one of the more durable traditions of Time magazine is the angle that locks the fan in the ear.

Our choice for 1971 is Richard Nixon.

That's it.

She let Bill know and let me.

See, he's got a dinner and a nice car anyway, so.

And I want, you know, I'll let you know if there's any problems.

You just say that I'd like to have him come over so we could talk about it, right?

Because I also think it's important that we talk about it rather than on the phone.

Right.

That's not true.

I'll do as you desire.

Just the three of us.

Right.

And I totally agree with the instruction of the agent, right?

And they invited Sato to San Fernando.

So that's why he totally agrees also to start a Latin American trip.

Boy, I could have had so many other friends.

I have, well, you see, I mean, we just go, uh, I was going to go to Latin America today, but I didn't go to Latin America tomorrow.

And we just, we just can't make it.

I just can't work it out on my screen.

But you let them in on that, you know, they've already, you know, they don't mix up.

Well, at the end of it, just barely.

And Bill could just, he wasn't pushing 940, which might not be the answer.

I think Bill, you know, I think he'd be just as happy to turn it off, especially if, can we play the 880 again?

Well, another thought that I have on that, yeah, and I think maybe it has some problems.

I'll leave it with Bill.

Let Bill go, let him take a, uh, do like they do in Japan.

Every captain, every captain, team, thing, take Lombie and, and both the, and a couple people, just to keep them all busy.

Right.

You mean to go to all the captains?

Like, go to all of them.

Take them on.

It's the captains that we have to put on.

Right.

Well, that's the only time I can open my schedule tomorrow.

It's 12 o'clock.

The best time for the evening.

Now,

You have, you let Willis, I don't know, let no one from his medicine camp.

No, I'm trying to find out what it is we're supposed to... Well, yes, yes, yes, yes.

It was this one I was trying to track down.

See, that's got to be working at a certain date.

That's the problem.

Now, what time?

When do they have to have their angels?

He doesn't say anything about that.

I don't know.

Well, it's not bad to have him come in on that, that we can correct rhetoric and all that, and talk more quickly.

We don't have to worry about harshing a sentence in the lecture.

Yeah.

Well, the other thing I have, I'll try to let him in on this after I've drawn him off that page.

It's worth it.

You know, I'm afraid I'd have to give him a damn right.

Well, as long as it's locked, I didn't trust him to defend it.

When you've got a letter signed by Gooden, more than anything, you've been selected there in that cabinet.

Well, maybe it is a good thing to get it.

I'm not quite as high on that sort of thing as you are.

I guess you're right.

It'll have an effect.

They may count the man of the year twice or three times, and that'll include something.

Let's find out.

Man of the year, Kennedy.

How many times did they count the man of the year?

I think each one of them was.

We got into this once before.

Okay.

Which did I ask?

I was trying to test.

I didn't get a chance to talk to him to see whether Ron caught this or not.

Yes, he did.

Now, I couldn't, he was breaking, when you brought this up, didn't get it.

We've got to watch him on that, Bob, because if we, if he doesn't, then you just got, I should have thought of this myself.

I should have had a more, oh, I thought about that.

There is, it's too late.

I was going to ask you, I wanted to go out with you, but

I always know that, Dave, and I just think of the future.

To be sure, to be sure we do not create such events.

You saw what I mean.

Such events are not set on for the sake of how many, how I left at 1.15 and got back 3 o'clock.

And there were 40 football players, and I spoke for 20 minutes.

And I watched it.

and I showed hands to everybody and had pictures, and what I said, that isn't it, you know, the very colorful things.

He says that black guy is from the star, and he thinks that he relents also, and so he was going to look into that.

But you had to start by pushing it.

And that guy's apparently very strongly pro-Nixon.

This is the guy, the black guy.

Ron said he's one of our best friends over there.

Because he, uh, works here?

No, apparently he covers sports, but he also, I guess he, Ron knew him, so he said, I asked him, Ron knew him, and we got a lot of that idea, but it was a time letter, so he gave you some time letters, so he was there covering, and got all of, you know, the arrival stuff, and the meeting of players, and the offensive line of business, and all that, which the other guys didn't get.

Because he was there before the others arrived.

And they did get the whole thing on tape.

And Ron felt that there was a lot he could use out of that.

But Ron really was a magazine article, or a featured article.

But he did get the point that it's based on Larry Ward, and to make sure.

I hope you can read it.

I don't know how.

No, he had, like, he got me over right away with the wire people that, that covered the color on them.

And he came on a field, and the fact that you came, you know, you just walked out unannounced.

And, uh, Coach spotted you.

He was out in the middle of the field somewhere, spotted you, and you were coming to the player's side, and you burst, and were shouting.

And Rudy said, uh, here we go.

Now we go.

Good, have no, I did, I did, Ron asked me about telling the press to try and test him this time, and say, well, he might go to Mark, and I said, don't test him.

I said, just tell them you just don't know, and I can't tell you.

I think that we're too kind to them to object.

I just don't believe you need to say, you've got to have your V.I.T.

mic go, follow us for your coverage information, every goddamn time.

Then if I don't, will they say anything to my plans?

If I'm just going to say that, am I excited I'm going to go?

I'll decide tomorrow.

or two years ago yeah i think they're coming back the same thing i can say look if you're a guy that's following the coefficient of that go tell me because everyone absolutely right that you know they're having another time flighting forward in particular the weather turns back five minutes you come back in one hour

or something comes up up here that you don't want to do.

I don't want it to look like a capital case.

Or you're sitting down there and you just kind of get, there's a couple times you've been down there and you got bored and there was something that was bugging you and you wanted to get at it up here, right?

And you just said, we'll go back to how we've done it.

I think you should always have, and you should always be able to do that, so that I never feel that I have to go at a certain time or come back at a certain time.

I think we ought to, tomorrow, give them as much notice as we can on what is going on.

Is there a line over this that we...

If we try to get them, we'll try to get them to go up on the bank.

But we ought to help out, too.

I must please open the way in there.

But he's on it anyway.

Depends on the Senate and the other business here.

Supposedly, Senate stays until 9 or 10 tomorrow.

I might have to go out.

That's too late.

I mean, getting up at 3 o'clock in the morning.

I got to get out there to see that game.

No, you got to really look at what time is the game.

Well, it's 2 or 2.30 Eastern time, so we have the 1130 out there.

Well, the 2.30 Eastern, we have a figure of five, six hours you have to leave.

Or you can get to 8.30 in the morning, 8 o'clock in the morning.

Oh, that's right.

Oh, sure, no problem.

I think we just wait until 9 o'clock.

I'm sure you'd be out there.

It's 2.30 here.

6 hours earlier it would be 8.30 in the morning.

I just can't miss that game.

We built in Eastman.

We built a wall.

I think we would carry Mississippi.

And that's quite a significant change in our perspective.

You know, we moved from Prairie to Mississippi against Ballston.

Now we have sort of our southern strategy is to stay one way, isn't it?

We have a big chance in Alabama against Ballston.

Alabama, do you think?

I think we could take Alabama.

I think we could take it.

Because he's going to be unpopular as a governor.

But Cindy Hart is another one.

Let's take Louisiana.

Louisiana is a possibility.

In the border here, well, they're always coming.

They're the Democrats in trouble, not Wallace.

Kentucky, they're the Democrats in trouble.

Wallace occurred down there in California.

That involves us.

Where is everyone listening?

I don't know.

See, he's going to the Democratic primaries now.

Is he?

Well, that's the problem.

And that's what he's apparently seriously considering going to the Florida primary, which will really screw that up for Steve Jackson.

And he gets some good spoilers in there.

You already sent us through the manager primary.

He's going to get 25% of the vote, and I'll let you lunch very well.

Compare him to us.

He's a much more colorful campaigner, better on television.

Don't you think so?

And remember what the analysis showed.

McCarthy got that big vote from the manager, a lot of it because of the Hawks.

The Hawks.

They were anti-Gents.

And the Hawks.

I've done this on a lot of them, but for your audience, especially with Lowe, um, the drama films.

And Disney, and that makes some people a place to go.

It's good, I believe, but it's a curse to the audience when one of these groups shows disloyalty and lack of tenacity in the state of New York City.

One of the smartest for football.

He bragged himself.

Perhaps a real one.

They just put him in the hall of fame.

He was in the hall of fame.

Let's check it out.

We got all the paragraphs?

Yes, sir.

What we need to do is come out at 6, 11 o'clock, near 11 o'clock, 3, if we get it from the Senate.

Yes, as soon as.

I don't want any money, but as soon as we know when the Senate is going to adjourn.

If we know the Senate's going to be down a tree, then we'll say, all of you are planning to do a problem.

But if it appears that Senator Tom Evans might be in until 8 or 9 o'clock, I may tell you who the next one is.

So what I would say, at 11, we know he'll come.

And at 3, at 4 in the afternoon, we'll check again.

And the damn Senate looks like they're going to be startled.

And we should plan to say, all of us look like we're going to do it.

Yeah, no problem.

I said, because the uncertainty in Senate, I said this morning, this afternoon, and I said, you know, I said, I braced briefly with the president this afternoon, and he said, with the Senate, in the uncertain condition they are, he said, I just don't know, Ron.

You know, so I used...

But they have the point.

They really, they're arguing amongst themselves.

No, no, the guys have come up to me, and I really hit them today.

And Carol Kilpatrick and Mario Dobbins came up, a lot of them, and said, you were absolutely right this morning.

Well, I said, you know, we have been in this administration over the last three years, we have given you guidance as to what we expect or what we think the president may do.

I said, and I said, we have given you indications as to what the president may do over the weekend, contrary to previous administrations, which they know.

And I said, I said, but these stories are starting to come up.

The president extended his trip.

Or he didn't extend his trip.

Or he changed his plans.

And I said, this information is based upon guidance.

I said, when the president tells me he's going to do something or makes a decision, then we have always announced it.

But we're just going to tighten up on that a little bit, I said, fellas.

It violated the guidance.

What they've been given as guidance for running, what they said, well, they might come back Sunday.

They printed this guy that I had planned to come back Sunday to change my mind.

I did not mind at all.

I never planned to come back Sunday in the first place.

Well, we haven't.

It depends on the weather.

We haven't.

Well, some of them came up and particularly took the issue, because I didn't even flinch on the thing about the families.

They came up and said, you're absolutely right.

Look, if they don't want to be assigned to the White House, they should ask for another assignment.

I said, the President of the United States has responsibilities here, and he is going to work with those responsibilities.

And when the time comes where he feels he can decide, he'll do it.

Well, that's the other thing.

Like this last time they said, is there an international crisis?

And we said, no, we shouldn't be in that position.

Because next time there may be one.

We don't want to lie and say, no, we sure as hell aren't going to say no.

We have them pretty robust.

They will write that now.

That's what I said.

That's why I wouldn't have them hard this morning.

That's all past.

I think we should always maintain the possibility.

We will do that.

Where there is a political here and everything coming up, there's not going to be anything.

Otherwise, we'll tell them not to.

We just don't have a chance.

Of course, I agree with all of this 100%.

I think, however, we can work into our advantage, and there comes to a point in understanding you decide when you decide, but there comes to a point where we could really to our disadvantage and for no reason get a bad

Uh, not on the family thing, but just get this bad environment moving around the press.

Well, as soon as we know who we are, there's not everything we should tell.

That's right.

We shouldn't, for our sake, keep them, right?

We shouldn't get ourselves locked.

That's right.

That's a former football player.

That was great out there today.

I think they could have done that.

I had a good talk with him, and he is a supporter 100% of the press.

The whole thing regarding sports, that's why I was there.

But he is a sports writer?

Yes, for the starter.

What's his name?

Well, I should know.

It starts with a P, and I can't pronounce it.

It's a long, complicated name.

I'll get it for you, because you don't hear anything that Bob was saying.

He probably got, uh... ...magazine piece on that.

No question about it.

He could take the whole thing.

He was there the whole time, sir.

bob said he was there when you got there exclusive if he's allowed to freelance if not we'd get someone else

Okay.

Unless Henry didn't have any qualms about the .

I thought he could, and I totally agree to answer that.

But you're .

I don't even know .

I don't know how long it is now.

And I just thought .

And then the point that you made about gallivanting around had not occurred to me to that extent.

Well, I even thought the first three trips were enough.

But I think now .

Yeah, I know.

And I think if you do that Camp David thing, when you get back, you really see it's good too.

Sure.

Everybody had it.

You don't have to see them at all.

Everybody had this at Camp David.

I looked at the new Laura was coming along.

Yes.

And who was the architect?

Is it good?

Yeah.

I don't know about...

I want to be sure that it's done architecturally.

It is.

And they're doing the textures and the woods and all that stuff.

They're going to pick up the right feel for it.

It's very reusable.

I want the other one kept.

The other one must be retained.

They're going to keep the other one as a recreation center.

You're going to put a pool table over there.

And they've already got a pool table.

Yeah, but that's for staff.

And this will be more for your guests.

So that's our thing.

There will be no living quarters in this room.

Now, if they aren't in Laurel, in this Laurel, the new Laurel doesn't have to go.

The new Laurel has a very big, that L-shaped lounge room with a big fireplace.

And then it'll have a conference room that's set up like a cabin.

And chairs around for conferences.

That is the place that you might use the old cabin.

I've been about a cent on that.

That's just a good idea to put it there.

There hasn't been so much for visitors to see it.

Yep.

And then there's a small lounge, it's a small conference room lounge type thing, and both of those have projection facilities so they can do slides and movies and that kind of thing.

What is that?

Is that a box over at the building on the other side?

That's storage and a kitchen, and what I keep down below, that's the storage facility, delivery rooms and all that sort of thing.

Well, it looks like a fine job.

There's several other new built cabins, I noticed.

Yeah, over here.

That's perfect.

So that's the new lane they're replacing.

See, they have to read those cabins.

They're all really shot to hell.

Nobody can tell.

George, I just wanted to be sure.

You got Peterson turned off on that trip.

He cannot go to Georgia.

As a matter of fact, I want it clearly understood.

No way.

I believe nobody is going to travel to any place next year.

No, no, no White House staff members and no cabinet people at all.

We've got to keep them from gallivanting around the world.

All they do is to get in trouble and have to report when they come back.

This, this one is, uh, this one has been, uh, I thought it was the wrong trip to the wrong place at the wrong time, with the other things, you know, coming up.

I was, I thought you were surprised about that tent that I was in.

I thought you did.

Well, you know, the thing that got me was that, uh, the economy went so well.

The economy was, uh, I had told them all along that we were not going to have people travel abroad again, you know, based on all these things.

Just not true.

He's not going to.

I don't care.

I just want to open this up.

There's some things that he isn't very smart about.

I don't know.

But with you, the idea is that you can go over and say, well, you just go over there and listen.

I say, yeah, listen.

You did your .

You're an economist, right?

You're an international .

Listen.

I don't hear what he says.

You're smart.

You'll be fine.

You can listen very well.

Well, he isn't a listener.

That's one of his problems.

He talks.

I've observed when somebody comes in that you're trying to get some information from him.

He talks, and you have to fight him.

You've got to throw him.

You get somebody in, you want information.

He's so old.

He's so old now.

Yes, he is.

He's a better guy.

I wanted to see you about the Council of Economic Prizes, and you asked me to talk about that.

Let me see, there's a report we've received from the media this morning.

But you, you are meeting with, uh, now, you, Connolly, and Earl and I meet tomorrow.

What's that about?

I understand that's about, uh, the budget.

That's the budget meeting.

And it says, Earl, Mr. Connolly.

We've got to have a meeting tomorrow sometime about, well, I guess what it is.

Are you having a separate meeting tomorrow?

We can't do that.

We had a meeting yesterday.

I know.

I think we need one more.

Now that we're still meeting, I think for the most part, we're still meeting.

I'm looking.

You've got to do that, but I think that you, Mr. Powell, and I, at first, were helpless.

I'm going to sit here.

Well, I have talked with John about it a couple of times.

I've also touched base with Erwin.

I called Mel Friedman.

The doctor back here had me with just like nothing better than having him in the administration.

And he was very pleased, very glad, and he said, well, it just wouldn't be helpful.

I can be more helpful to the person outside the administration than inside.

And just believe me now.

He was probably pretty confident.

I don't know what the general, he's the kind of guy that's pretty confident.

He didn't come up, but I helped him out.

Yeah.

Hi, John.

Let me just have that to be sure that I know.

We meet tomorrow at 10.

I understand that.

That's on budget tax.

And then at 11.30, it says here that you and Burns might meet.

Now, yeah, well, the only thing I was, well, I'm back to using them.

The only thing I was wondering about is,

whether or not you and I and, you know, Kissinger and Schultz ought to sit down together.

I thought she wrote it before we talked to Bermans.

You said today you thought the whole group on the committee was Berman or something.

And I just wanted to, now I, so I can clear it earlier in the morning then for you at like 9 o'clock then for our business.

So before you tell me what you think is the best plan, there's one thing I have to check about, John.

I think it's very important that we get Bernd to line it up so that he doesn't go over there and try to call the signals.

Don't you agree?

He's got to support whatever you do, you see.

All right.

With Bernd's

Good.

Happy?

Yeah.

All right then.

Right.

.

4.30 is, shall we set up a meeting then of five people, you, Arthur?

I tried that myself.

That's all, okay.

4.30 for the group and the full group.

But then at 4.30, we can have our ducks in a row and not all laid out there, fine.

And I should tell him,

All right, I'll see that the others here are far.

And shall I see that he's told me that he wants to come back at 4.30 so that he could keep some time?

Or do you want to tell him?

Better have him here.

All right, fine.

Okay, I'll do that.

Thank you.

That's all, sir.

He's going to see if he burns or not.

Hey, Mike.

What's up?

Because I'm going to get .

And he's starting to think about what his ideas are.

And he wants the birds to pass to see me.

Birds will come in.

We'll see them after 30.

After I hear the birds' viewpoints, what ought to be done?

So I want to think about this.

And I want to talk to George.

I want to talk to Tanner.

I'll talk to him after that.

And I'd like for all of you to come back at 4.30 and get a comment from the crowd.

Well, we've got to get harder.

We've got to get harder to tie in a subtle way, and I guess that's the best way to do it.

That's his plan, so I accept that.

Well, did he tell you what we agreed?

Yes.

Are you referring to that?

Yes.

He went down that road.

That's where we are.

That's his plan.

I don't know.

We have to keep going.

We've got to keep all this open because I have these meetings that I have to go through, and I'm sure I smile on them and have that as a promotion center for discussion.

Well, it can be played in a variety of ways there, but I should think we've been... We don't want to settle it with a big group of people.

Yeah, I don't think so.

And I don't want... One of the things we're trying to hold is whether or not we think we're going to be able to offer the same leadership, so we should do that.

We could, uh, we could settle a search charge around here.

pretty well, so I think we could settle a surcharge round of this.

Yes.

The difficulty is, he probably doesn't, and he's right, know it's a good person.

We know, and I've learned a lot about it, you know, that what is the most important thing for us is to get them relined.

We're getting rid of the surcharge, and we're going to get them relined.

We know that.

I think we have to have that because that politically means more, particularly in the agriculture side.

That's easy and very difficult at the same time.

Well, I thought that rather than try to

Establish a name now.

If you agree on Stein, then we should work with Stein to develop a recommendation for you.

Because since you would be a member of Stein's Council, Stein would want to have an input.

There's somebody called Stein.

There's Stein?

Yes.

I think you've got to be very kind.

I can just work with him on that.

I could say, Eric, we don't want to just say, look, this is Eric's son.

That's basically it.

I don't give a damn if he's a Jew or a Mongoloid, but he's smart.

But it is good that they're already going to pay us for how you originally kissed your son and so forth.

Did you want to call, sign in, or do you want me to talk to him more?

How's that?

Oh, I think that, uh, in order to keep, uh, but I'd like to give you a strong line.

I think you ought to go.

No, I asked you about it.

Paul, I'd recommend that you spend that call and, uh, what you did.

Yes, I was very physically at bar, and I asked the president to leave a dolphin to do with a man, but I got accepted, so I'm not interested.

So as a letter received, he knows that you might say to you that I asked you to make a check with your recommendation, and that's what you're doing.

You checked it around, and Connell approved it, and Crack approved it, and you recommended it, so I don't know.

That's what I'm doing, and then bringing it in.

Thank you very much.

I suppose every commitment is a crime.

A life song.

You know, I think that, you know, I think that the king said, well, I'm going to be the king.

I'm going to be the king.

All right.

So the main thing is we've got to be banded sister of Ethan Scott and Santa at the Arbor and kick him right in the nuts in the money spot.

You'll believe it, but I think his channel needs to do it more effectively than he could on his channel.

Right?

Right.

And so I'd like to get a good, I think it would be a money spot in the animal council.

You haven't heard that that's a problem in the money spot.

I said to you, I think there are,

Our deficiency on the council right now is in what economists call a price theory error.

I don't know what it is.

I think it says that you ought to have a third person.

I'd like to read a problem to George.

Go ahead.

Thank you.

You've spoken a lot.

We need to get a third person named promptly.

You think you ought to work with me to develop that particular thing.

I'd like to have a third person participated in the report.

Correct.

And I'd like to do with George to give me a record of the N.A.

as quickly as you can.

I think it's on for a year and all that sort of thing.

We'll get everything.

A lot of economists who are very admirers of human beings, even though most of them don't like the way the price is, but that's basically the way.

I don't like it either.

Well, the one thing that Milton wants to register on me is he thinks that the lakes in Christchurch, of course, are in abomination.

He thinks that we will perform a great service by making it impossible for us to operate.

But I don't mean anything solidifying that.

Well, that's fine.

So you can tell Stein that the deal was made and bring him in.

And we'll have the, if you, I think you can also tell Connolly.

Connolly, what Connolly said, he said he thinks he's fine.

He made this Jewish point.

And I checked with him at the end of the day and he explicitly, I said, now I can record you.

as being in favor with the president.

He said, absolutely.

I think he's first class.

So he's completely on board.

I'll tell him that you concur with him before we do any of that or anything.

But he is in total favor with us.

I'll try to think of something.

Why don't you?

Maybe I'll mention it to him.

Let's raise it at the 10 o'clock meeting.

Okay.

All right.

Do you want me to talk to this guy in the morning before then, or right after?

Okay.

And then I'll try to get a little time on the calendar.

Oh, sure, sure.

I'll be with you to do it tomorrow, because then Stein can be working on names, and we can work on them.

Okay.

Would you want to make an announcement tomorrow?

The only reason I raised that is

That thing's had a terrible way of leaking around this place.

Second line, please.

Does he have a patch on him?

No.

He doesn't have a patch, but he doesn't see out of the arm, but he's...

He wouldn't know there was any change.

Good humor.

He's really quite a fine fellow.

John, I wanted to check this with you before I go up to the follow-up.

George, I've actually had to ask you to check this CEA thing.

I don't want the McCrackens to get it off the leafboard, but as far as you're concerned, is it all right with you?

I think he's the best.

You see, if you get a new man and you have the difficulty of his not having quit, that's a problem.

But what do you feel about him?

He's a strong guy.

Yeah.

Right.

Sir, I'm with you.

I'll go forward with an announcement and an announcement tomorrow.

Okay.

All right.

Thank you.

He doesn't know it's for McCracken because he doesn't know.

Of course, thanks.

I, uh...

I didn't tell them, but he had me at 6.0.

The thing to do is, the reason I'm doing this is so I may get sacked up tomorrow, because we're going in a second.

It's unheard of in California.

I don't know.

So, I have to do it again.

Have that for a third meeting.

Could I film a ride out to the airport with you?

Oh, thank you.

You go now.

I'm going to go up to my farm for Thanksgiving.

Which airport?

I'm going out of Andrews.

Oh, easy.

Easy.

Oh, that's over there for Thanksgiving.

Great.

No, we still have a farm.

Yeah, well, we still have a house.

But if you like it, I'd be pleasantly.

We've had it for a long time.

Well, I like cities, but it's good to get a little, uh... What do you do?

In the summer, I play golf.

Is there a golf course?

Yeah, there's a golf course.

There's a lovely golf course in Bladestown.

Massachusetts?

Yeah.

Is that where Lincoln's College is?

Yeah.

It's a very pleasant area.

A lot of, uh... Massachusetts is really a lovely state.

It's a pretty state.

It used to be a solid Republican state.

The assaults all marched at the same time when I was living there.

There's no need for it not to be a Republican election.

Well, it can change.

Basically, it's more liberal.

But we saw sergeants arise and go.

The Western part of the state is very heavily Republican.

And Boston is the...

I think it's come off very rough.

Now, I had the agent of the General Counsel of the Labor Department decide last night down in Miami and said, now, don't do anything rash on the pay board.

We still want to serve.

And so underneath me, there's

A lot of feelings.

He's out here.

He doesn't hear it.

He hears it when he's standing in some of the other offices.

I don't know.

I don't think it's probably important.

Well, it's good.

You can't take him out of the telephone.

No, sir.

But it didn't mean anything to the senator.

It's just, it's just not possible.

I don't know what to do.

We talked to him here in the morning or a week before.

We don't have it.

Yeah.

Get off.

Well, I wanted to just first do two things to congratulate you on your wing last night.

I saw the first half, and I saw that field go blocked, and then one extra point blocked, and another one apparently missed.

I had to ask you to run up that fantastic yard, and you didn't know what would happen.

So I read the paper you won.

But you've got a great running team there, and this kid can throw too, can he?

This Barry.

Yeah.

But they said...

Right, and Senator, I wanted to thank you for your wire that I got after my little confrontation with Mr. Meade.

That was very thoughtful of you.

Well, you know, sometimes you've got to stand up for yourself.

That's right, that's right.

Well, I appreciate it.

I appreciate it very much.

You know, I was interested in the

And the announcer, it was that Monday night game, which I think is a superb idea for the viewing audience, because that's about the best time I can look.

But the announcer said that if you were to win, that that puts you in a position for the second spot of the wild card in the West.

Is that right?

Are you in the same league, of course, with the Rams and the 49ers?

Now, which one of them did you play in the next four games?

Right.

And, uh, yeah.

Yeah.

Is your team, as I understand, have three rookies?

Well, yes.

The thing that impressed me about it was that contested something.

You must have some awfully good, the young son here are really reliable.

Are they front line?

I mean, you're offensive linemen.

Are they pretty strong?

Are they young guys?

Yeah.

But I'll tell you the way to open the holes for those.

Well, anyway, I congratulate you and wish you well.

Except when you play the Rexes, and I got to beat the Rexes.

All right.

What do you mind?

You're both my friends.

Yeah.

Okay.

He's not here.

He's, uh, speaking at a World Affairs conference in Wilmington, Delaware.

Yeah.

That's all he is.

He brings him in every morning.

Right.

And, uh, he tells you.

You can give him the follow-up or the same procedure that we've done before he comes in.

That's all he's going to tell you.

He's expected to accept the case.

Right.

I know.

And then, uh, he'll get it run, ready to announce it.

Right.

He'll announce it.

Well, there's a lot of facts to be remarked over that hour.

Very good.

All right, sir.