{"conversationCode":"623-029","tapeNumber":623,"conversationNumber":29,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-623-029","startDateTime":"1971-11-23T23:08:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-23T23:10:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Nov-1971","startTime":"6:08 PM","endDate":"23-Nov-1971","endTime":"6:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On November 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 6:08 pm and 6:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 623-029 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 623-029\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nDate: November 23, 1971\nTime: 6:08 pm - unknown before 6:10 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Ronald L. Ziegler.\n\n     Ziegler's forthcoming statement\n           -Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] negotiations\n           -Vietnam War\n                 -Senate action\n\n     Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]\n         -Herbert Stein\n         -Paul W. McCracken's resignation\n\nThe conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 6:10 pm.","filename":["623-029.mp3"],"tapeStart":"06:24:48","tapeEnd":"06:26:32","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"623-028","nextCode":"624-001","transcript":[{"start":0.08,"end":19.17,"text":"."},{"start":19.19,"end":23.88,"text":"."},{"start":23.9,"end":23.92,"text":"."},{"start":23.94,"end":23.96,"text":"."},{"start":23.98,"end":24,"text":"."},{"start":26.02,"end":52.29,"text":"We are negotiating."},{"start":52.31,"end":52.69,"text":"We are negotiating."},{"start":52.71,"end":53.09,"text":"We are negotiating."},{"start":53.11,"end":53.49,"text":"We are negotiating."},{"start":57.15,"end":84.93,"text":"That's good."},{"start":86.5,"end":87.74,"text":"."},{"start":87.76,"end":90.18,"text":"."},{"start":90.6,"end":92.49,"text":"."},{"start":92.55,"end":104.62,"text":"."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler to coordinate a forthcoming public statement regarding the status of the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks and ongoing Senate actions concerning the Vietnam War. The discussion also addressed administrative changes within the Council of Economic Advisors, specifically focusing on the resignation of Paul W. McCracken and the role of Herbert Stein. The brief consultation served to align the administration's messaging on these sensitive foreign policy and economic personnel matters.","topics":["SALT negotiations","Vietnam War","Council of Economic Advisors","Paul W. McCracken","Herbert Stein","White House communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:10:22.275Z"},"topicSlugs":["salt-negotiations","vietnam-war","council-of-economic-advisors","paul-w-mccracken","herbert-stein","white-house-communications"],"audioDurationSec":105,"audioFiles":[{"file":"623-029.mp3","bytes":4192256,"durationSec":104.69,"bitrate":320354,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.996Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:09.123Z","transcriptGapSeconds":73,"transcriptGapShare":0.7,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/623-029.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/623-029","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/623/conversation-623-029","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}