Conversation: 624-010
Prev: 624-009 Next: 624-011Start Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1971 1:49 PM
End Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1971 2:49 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.; Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Bull, Stephen B.; Shultz, George P.; Stein, Herbert; Ziegler, Ronald L.; Wilson, Peter B.; Friedersdorf, Max L.; White House photographerRecording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 00:28:44
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 01:27:00
NARA Description:
On November 24, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Henry A. Kissinger, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, George P. Shultz, Herbert Stein, Ronald L. Ziegler, Peter B. Wilson, Max L. Friedersdorf, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:49 am to 9:49 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 624-010 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 624-10
Date: November 24, 1971
Time: 8:49 am - 9:49 am
Location: Oval Office
The President met with Henry A. Kissinger.
People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Kissinger's previous meeting with Huang Hua
-United Nations [UN] membership
-Kissinger’s view
-Chou En-lai
-Middle East
-India-Pakistan
-Possible UN resolutions
-Public stance
-Alexander M. Haig, Jr.
-President’s forthcoming visit to PRC
-Haig’s role
India-Pakistan
-Washington Special Action Group [WSAG]
-Bureaucratic situation
-US policy
-US aid to India
-Timing
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
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INDIA-PAKISTAN
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Middle East
-US aid to Israel
-Senate
-President’s forthcoming meeting with Golda Meir
-Kissinger’s view
-Compared with previous year
-Effect on William P. Rogers
-Rogers’s statement
-Soviet Union
-US intelligence
-Soviet military aid to Egypt
The President's schedule
-Melvin R. Laird
-Possible participation in forthcoming meeting
-Rogers
-H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
-Kissinger's previous conversation with Rogers
India-Pakistan
-US policy
-Foreign aid
Haldeman entered at 8:56 am.
The President's schedule
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
-Laird and Rogers
-Call to Kissinger's office
-Stephen B. Bull
-John B. Connally, George P. Shultz and Kissinger
Bull entered at an unknown time after 8:56 am.
-Laird’s invitation to forthcoming meeting
-Kissinger's office
-Robert E. Pursley
-Forthcoming call from Bull
Bull left at an unknown time before 9:01 am.
-Kissinger and Rogers
India-Pakistan
-US policy and involvement
-The President's previous conversation with Indira Gandhi
-Kissinger's previous conversation with Lakshmi Kant Jha
-Aid to India and Pakistan
-Impact on US foreign relations
-Soviet Union and India
-PRC
-PRC
-Kissinger's meeting with Huang Hua
-Possible UN action
-US policy
-Cutoff of US aid
-Effectiveness
-Rogers's views
-The President’s view
The President's schedule
-Kissinger
-WSAG meeting
-Forthcoming meeting with Connally, Shultz, and Kissinger
-President’s possible forthcoming trip to Latin America
-Haldeman's forthcoming call to Rogers
-The President’s view
-Timing of Congressional session
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
-Rogers's schedule
-Possible meeting with foreign ministers
-Problem of junketing
Kissinger left at 9:01 am.
Polls
-Opinion Research Corporation [ORC]
-Spokesman's statement regarding client
-Union leaders
-Republican National Committee [RNC]
-Funds
The President's schedule
-Congress's schedule
-Departure for California
-Forthcoming meeting with Shultz, Arthur F. Burns, Connally and Kissinger
-Peter G. Peterson
Peterson's schedule
-Foreign trip
-Status
-Forthcoming meeting with Shultz and Kissinger
The President talked with Kissinger at an unknown time between 9:01 am and 9:08 am.
[Conversation No. 624-10A]
Request that Kissinger join them
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's schedule
-Staff plane
-Return
The President left at an unknown time before 9:08 am.
Kissinger entered at 9:08 am.
The President's location
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
Peterson's schedule
-Foreign trip
-Forthcoming call from Kissinger
-The President
The President's schedule
-Kissinger
The President entered at an unknown time after 9:08 am.
-Possible forthcoming trip to Latin America
-Haldeman's forthcoming conversation with Rogers
-Congress's schedule
-Robert H. Finch’s current trip to Latin America
Rogers's schedule
-Possible trip to Latin America
-The President’s view
-Possible reception
-Vietnam
-Possible meeting with foreign ministers of Latin America
Peterson's schedule
-Foreign trip
-Kissinger and Shultz
-Foreign trip
-Status
-Foreign trips
-The President’s view
-Shultz
-The President’s view
Rogers C. B. Morton
-Forthcoming trip to the Trust Territories
-Arthur W. Hummel, Jr. [?]
-Morton's forthcoming meeting with Kissinger
-The President’s view
India-Pakistan
-US policy towards India
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
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-David Packard's views
-State Department
-Thomas H. Moorer's views
-Note from PRC
Kissinger left at 9:13 am.
Morton
-Trips
The President's schedule
-Congress's schedule
-Haldeman's conversation with Clark MacGregor
-MacGregor's previous conversation with the President
-Michael J. Mansfield
Polls
-University of New Hampshire
-George S. McGovern
-Edmund S. Muskie
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Tape Subject Log
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Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
[Personal Returnable]
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Kissinger entered at 9:15 am.
India-Pakistan
-Note from PRC
-Rogers
Kissinger left at 9:16 am.
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[Duration: 1m 25s ]
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Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:16 am.
The President's schedule
-Shultz and Herbert Stein
Bull left at an unknown time before 9:18 am.
Council of Economic Advisors [CEA]
-Stein
-New position
-Possible announcement
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
-Shultz
National economy
-Stock market
-Forthcoming dinner for Clifford M. Hardin
-Paul W. McCracken and Maurice H. Stans
The President's schedule
Shultz and Stein entered at 9:18 am.
CEA
-Stein's role
-Views of Connally, Shultz and McCracken
-Spokesman
-Burns
-McCracken
-Connally and Shultz
-Quadriad meetings
-John W. Dean, III
-Views on national economy
-The President's program
-Connally and Shultz
Kissinger entered at 9:22 am.
Peterson's schedule
-Foreign travel
CEA
-Stein's role
-Burns
-International monetary situation
International monetary situation
-Kissinger, Connally, Shultz and Stein
-Quadriad
-Burns and Peterson
-Kissinger
Kissinger left at 9:23 am.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
National economy
-The President's program
-Stock market
-George Meany
-Businessmen's views
-Stein's meeting with World Affairs Council
-Du Pont influence
-Views of Wilmington, Delaware businessmen
-Compared with New York City counterparts
-Phase II
-Pay Board
-Price Board Commission
-Inflation
-Stein’s view
-Dock strike
-Possible settlement
-Taft-Hartley Act
-Board of Inquiry
Ziegler entered at 9:28 am.
CEA
-Stein's role
-Forthcoming announcement
-Handling
-McCracken's knowledge
-Handling
-Ziegler’s role
-McCracken and Burns
-Connally
-Timing
-Taft-Hartley Act
National economy
-Dock strike
-Taft-Hartley Act
-Timing of announcement
Stein
-Health
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
-Shultz
-Wife
Shultz and Stein left at 9:32 am.
Ziegler's forthcoming announcements
-Taft-Hartley Act
-The President's schedule
-Forthcoming meeting in the Azores with Georges J.R. Pompidou
-Rogers and Connally
-Topics of meeting
[Unintelligible]
Ronald L. Ziegler left at an unknown time before 9:36 am.
Bull entered at an unknown time after 9:32 am.
The President's schedule
-Peter B. Wilson
Bull left at an unknown time before 9:36 am.
CEA
-Stein
-Haldeman’s view
-McCracken
-Burns
-The President’s view
The President's schedule
-Previous visit to Washington Redskins practice session
-Press coverage
-Washington Post
-Television
-Radio
-Baseball
Wilson and Max L. Friedersdorf entered at 9:36 am; the White House photographer and
members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
Wilson's forthcoming role in San Diego
San Diego
-Forthcoming Republican Convention
[Unintelligible]
Wilson's election
-Strategy
San Diego
-Forthcoming Republican Convention
-Wilson's meetings with Dean and John D. Ehrlichman
-Miami
-Hotels
-Arnold Simms [sp?]
-Forthcoming Republican Convention
-Wilson's conversation with William E. Timmons
-Tijuana, Mexico
-Possible place for delegates to visit
-Mayor of Baja California
-The President's previous visit
-Delegates' interest
-The President’s view
-San Diego
-Haldeman’s view
-Navy
-Milk Producers' convention in Chicago
-The President's previous speech
-Value of publicity to San Diego and Wilson
-Unknown person in Miami Beach
-Ronald W. Reagan
-Wilson’s previous meeting with Dean
-Police chief
-Wilson’s view
-Forthcoming Republican Convention
-Police forces
-Peter J. Pitchess
-Compared with Miami
-Cartoon of the President and Wilson
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 624-10 (cont.)
Wilson
-Political career
-Age
Peter Kay and Paul Tighe
Mayors
-Richard G. Lugar
-The President’s view
-Problems compared to Wilson's
-Blacks
-Hispanics
-Wilson
-The President’s view
Presentation of gifts by the President
Wilson's election
Haldeman, et al., left at 9:49 am.