{"conversationCode":"625-010","tapeNumber":625,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-625-010","startDateTime":"1971-11-29T13:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-11-29T13:38:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Nov-1971","startTime":"8:25 AM","endDate":"29-Nov-1971","endTime":"8:38 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On November 29, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:25 am and 8:38 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 625-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 625-10\n\nDate: November 29, 1971\nTime: 8:25 am - unknown before 8:38 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     Earl L. Butz\n           -Confirmation\n                -Clark MacGregor\n\n     1973 budget\n          -Federal pay\n          -George P. Shultz\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -National Broadcasting Corporation [NBC] program\n               -“A Day in the Life of the President”\n                      -The President’s view\n                           -Ronald L. Ziegler\n                           -Shultz, John D. Ehrlichman and Henry A. Kissinger\n          -Unknown man\n\fHaldeman left at an unknown time before 8:38 am.\n\n                                                                   Conv. No. 625-26\n                                                                   Conversation     (cont.)\n                                                                                No. 625-11\n\nDate: November 29, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 8:25 am and 8:38 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -John N. Mitchell\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 8:38 am.","filename":["625-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:53:12","tapeEnd":"00:58:09","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"625-009","nextCode":"625-011","transcript":[{"start":10.54,"end":36.23,"text":"of the, uh, of the, uh, of the, uh, of the, uh, of the, uh, of the, uh, of the, uh, of the, uh, of the, uh,"},{"start":36.87,"end":57.16,"text":"5.5, federal pay increase."},{"start":57.19,"end":57.45,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":57.47,"end":57.73,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":57.75,"end":58.29,"text":"Because I don't understand."},{"start":67.67,"end":94.2,"text":"Then we'll keep these two days open and see what happens."},{"start":94.22,"end":94.42,"text":"All right."},{"start":94.44,"end":95.32,"text":"Let's just see if we can see something here."},{"start":95.34,"end":95.89,"text":"Well, there's nothing here."},{"start":95.91,"end":96.93,"text":"Going forward, we can't be seen at half six, right?"},{"start":96.95,"end":97.09,"text":"Got it."},{"start":97.11,"end":97.17,"text":"OK."},{"start":103.09,"end":122.54,"text":"I have a draft of one."},{"start":122.56,"end":124.46,"text":"I want to redo it now with the idea of the two-door thing and I'll have that over this morning."},{"start":124.48,"end":126.55,"text":"That would be a good thing to get settled today and get it set up so we'll have a good lot of schedule."},{"start":126.56,"end":127.43,"text":"You're not going to do something like that?"},{"start":127.45,"end":127.51,"text":"No."},{"start":127.53,"end":128.37,"text":"No, that's the main thing I'm going to do."},{"start":129.34,"end":151.68,"text":"There's got to be some sort of some appearance of, I don't know, they will overcompensate on it anyway."},{"start":151.69,"end":152.6,"text":"And I don't want it to just be another thing."},{"start":152.62,"end":153.56,"text":"Don't just sort of sign it and force it around."},{"start":153.58,"end":153.92,"text":"Too much on time."},{"start":153.94,"end":154.76,"text":"Got to get a broad scope of the audience."},{"start":154.78,"end":154.98,"text":"Very good."},{"start":171.35,"end":194.75,"text":"And don't, and don't just get as serious as things."},{"start":194.77,"end":197.03,"text":"Like Sandy, when Schultz comes in, and Hurley comes in, and Kissinger comes in, that will, that will overdo that."},{"start":197.05,"end":197.55,"text":"It's too dull for people."},{"start":197.57,"end":199.13,"text":"They should come in, and what they come in on should be done in interruptions."},{"start":199.15,"end":201.35,"text":"Yeah, interrupting each other, or being interrupted by something that happens rather than just long drawn out."},{"start":201.94,"end":221.34,"text":"Good."},{"start":221.37,"end":224.31,"text":"Well, one thing, if you want to take some time, try to take a little time to get us to say no, because there's going to be a lot of help coming in."},{"start":224.33,"end":225.67,"text":"And he's ready to talk to you, so that's something to keep in mind."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met to discuss administrative priorities, including the confirmation of Earl L. Butz and upcoming decisions regarding the 1973 federal budget and pay increases. They also strategized on the production of an NBC documentary, \"A Day in the Life of the President,\" with Nixon emphasizing that the footage should avoid overly formal policy meetings to prevent the content from becoming too dull for viewers. The President directed Haldeman to ensure the program featured more dynamic, interrupted sequences rather than prolonged, serious discussions involving his senior advisors.","topics":["Earl L. Butz","1973 Federal Budget","Federal pay increase","NBC documentary","Presidential scheduling","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:14:02.453Z"},"topicSlugs":["earl-l-butz","1973-federal-budget","federal-pay-increase","nbc-documentary","presidential-scheduling","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":228,"audioFiles":[{"file":"625-010.mp3","bytes":9125926,"durationSec":228.01,"bitrate":320197,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:51.996Z","transcriptGapSeconds":157,"transcriptGapShare":0.69,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/625-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/625-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/625/conversation-625-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}