Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 625-020 Date: Monday, November 29, 1971 at 11:20 AM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Lonstreth, William Thacher; White House operator; MacGregor, Clark; Rooney, John J. Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/625-020 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:03] Probably, sir, because you caught the other thing. [0:15] I caught it, but they didn't have to call it, because I don't follow signs, and so forth, but I didn't notice. [0:26] You've got to notice, sir. [0:32] Oh, we've had to make it back. [0:34] There's no time for that. [0:36] There's no time for that. [0:39] There's no time for that. [0:43] There's no time for that. [0:44] There's no time for that. [1:07] How much does your vacation have to earn? [1:09] Strengths? [1:10] Can they? [1:11] Okay. [1:11] Work? [1:11] You? [1:11] Okay. [1:11] If you work, it's very honest. [1:40] Thank you. [2:44] Come along, come along. [2:46] You. [2:46] There, don't move up. [2:48] Don't move up there. [2:50] We got your needs. [3:17] All right. [3:18] All right. [3:51] There's some go that way. [4:17] You compare him to Jack O'Neil, you don't get harassed by anything. [4:21] Well, like, a lot of other stuff. [4:24] In fact, Jack was horrible at it, too. [4:27] He had to give him that much love. [4:30] And there he is, in truth. [4:31] I mean, it's just really nice to look at him. [4:34] I think one is nice, but he just... Oh, he's an insecure, black person. [4:37] He just needs to be seen. [4:38] He has to have that lower eye, I mean. [4:42] There's a headless child coming here. [4:50] They had a region that would play one number two or something before five minutes, so then that would be out of the way. [5:17] Yeah, it's too bad we haven't really picked some. [5:22] I don't know. [5:23] I think they're better than that. [5:27] That must be boring. [5:30] When you know whether you can go out on any trips, could I go? [5:39] Yeah. [5:57] Yeah. [5:58] Yeah. [6:17] Okay. [6:18] Okay. [6:19] Okay. [6:52] Thank you. [7:22] Hello? [7:24] John, I did want to have one of your old colleagues go and clear back of the idiot that missed your birthday. [7:31] Yeah, I know that you already have a go for a big match at such a match, so go home at half-past, okay? [7:38] Now, I want to spend a little time with you. [7:42] Yeah, well, good to talk to you. [7:46] We'll wish you the best of luck, okay? [7:48] Many happy returns, Bob. [7:51] See ya. [8:15] I'm saying what I think you'd better throw. [8:18] I just don't know what, for example, may come up while I'm on the trip. [8:22] I might have to make up some damn statement or something. [8:26] It won't be what I think you'll do. [8:28] I don't get that. [8:31] We don't have to go and slice down their staff situation. [8:36] I mean, so that you don't have to do some of the things that they're all doing. [8:43] You know, it wasn't really an extent of what we were concerned. [8:50] We had another one involved, you know, that they were on the sides. [8:56] the size of the group was very distinct. [9:01] I got that idea in California. [9:03] I checked that office situation, and I said, I don't know who's in these offices. [9:08] He said, well, they've got to argue with that one. [9:13] Where the hell is Ryan's office? [9:15] Right outside there, sir. [9:21] Well, Butterfield's never was there. [9:24] Butterfield didn't used to go. [9:26] Then, when Butterfield came, he and Steve used to both occupy the office. [9:33] And then, for some reason or other, they thought they had been in his way, like a gnome. [9:39] I don't know whose idea it may have been. [9:44] Well, I think it's still a real secret that it's a secret. [9:47] It's a secret. [9:49] Because they're, you know, the... [9:51] They may not have people they can count on. [9:54] But... Now you've got, you see, you've got Butterfield, you've got Dwight, you've got, you've got... [9:59] They go on there. [10:00] They go to work in the military. [10:03] Well, they're up in the antebellum and all that. [10:06] The A's, the A's, it's there. [10:08] Don, here's Pat's office. [10:10] Now, the A's, the office actually is up in the antebellum. [10:17] But... [10:18] That's fairly small. [10:19] But on the other hand, on these trips, I'm a military aide. [10:24] I've got all these other people who've got that much. [10:27] Well, a lot of the people I've dealt with, Rickman is not there either, as you well know. [10:31] There's hardly anybody in the office at any time. [10:34] Maybe you could look at it. [10:36] At least I've been in one of those offices for an hour a day. [10:45] Nobody's been out of town. [10:51] I don't know what the use of that is. [10:57] For example, wasn't there a priest that should be known as the Lord of the Wind of the Christ? [11:03] Sir, you shouldn't think I'm a priest, but before that grapevine, it just looked like a dance floor. [11:08] I had somebody walking in there, and I was trying to think who they were calling out. [11:14] I don't know. [11:16] I'm going to have all these good gentlemen. [11:18] I'm going to have all these goddamn people. [11:20] I think it's going to happen a lot. [11:23] And he was like, well, I don't have anybody there to go in and say, get the hell out of here. [11:27] Man, I have to go out there and talk to you. [11:30] I mean, I've got a aide, and I've got a secret service man, and I've got a military aide. [11:35] Man, I'm trying to get you in here, but when you have a free, nobody lives in here. [11:39] They live in their home. [11:40] They all want to live in there, but nobody has any responsibility. [11:43] And the only thing I can do is wait for someone to do this. [11:50] And you go very, very far. [11:51] It really is. [11:53] It really is. [11:56] I agree. [11:56] When you go, unless you're going to have a lot to do. [11:58] When there's a big schedule and a big schedule, they have to be able to take. [12:02] I would always have been for a smaller rather than a larger staff. [12:06] But I think, really, people do more when they're pushed a little. [12:12] Not pushed hard. [12:13] I mean, it's not going to be a thunder. [12:15] You know, I was going to say, and I called it. [12:19] She couldn't believe we were there. [12:24] We got there in time. [13:55] Yeah, I think, I think it worked out very well. [14:00] And I ordered it up. [14:02] I ordered it to pass, ordered the whole den, and then ordered a side, and then an additional side order and stuff. [14:09] Potatoes, they had some mashed potatoes. [14:12] I think it got a thank you feel at that time, she got home and said, [14:27] Yes, it was quite a little today. [14:39] I don't know what such a beautiful place. [16:26] What about free space for you? [16:28] Go back. [16:28] I don't have much. [16:32] I don't have much. [16:36] I don't have much. [16:37] I don't have much. [16:39] I don't have much. [17:13] When I was over there, I thought... [17:17] I think when I was over there, I may have occurred to you, you know... [18:00] I've got it. [24:13] What's going on today? [24:18] I'm going to take this place out today. [24:23] I feel like this is going to be cool. [24:36] This is making sense. [24:57] All right.