Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 625-024
Date: Monday, November 29, 1971 at 11:53 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.; MacGregor, Clark; Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/625-024

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[0:01] Yeah.
[0:03] I want to tell you that we've got a great deal of possibility on that.
[0:17] Anyway, before the Congress came to the clock, and now this, of course, creates problems for Mr.
[0:30] because they'll, uh, they'll, uh, they'll see that the, uh, they'll take the whole thing into account, too.
[0:36] On the other hand, I have, uh, I, I've heard, I'm convinced that I have no choice but to be told, in other hands, to look at it, if for no other reason, if for no other reason, because I didn't, it would totally disarm my recall back into the fog.
[0:50] And that's another reason.
[0:53] The second point is that,
[0:55] If we are going to be doing it, I think the thing to do is not to get caught in it, but to let them know right away so that we start getting them to attack us.
[1:04] At least this is a terrible example of a snatch.
[1:07] But also, what's the responsibility on the Democrats for foreshadowing the attack?
[1:14] The third thing is that this will require massive effort on the part of your people.
[1:22] And, uh, to get along with these Democrats and say, for Christ's sakes, don't listen to me, don't believe God, and have this bill, and not say anything.
[1:30] And, uh, I, uh, I, uh, this is my word for Satan, for Christ's sake, and for God's sake.
[1:36] It'll be the straight-out one thing, and I, uh, for Christ's sake, and for anybody who wants something to say today.
[2:10] This bill will pass the beginning laws of the business community on American political life.
[2:19] It will be cut.
[2:21] That's what they've got to realize.
[2:23] And that is not a good thing.
[2:25] It's not a good thing for that group.
[2:26] It's a concrete.
[2:33] My hope is far beyond.
[2:37] in these stories towards money and they just forget it from now on why how did i create that yeah i heard about that
[2:58] I said, that means that for the last time in this country, we may have a situation where no president will receive a majority vote and will not have a majority mandate.
[3:26] Well, they will catch some of our previous colleagues from the long-term service.
[3:34] We reflected it for a while.
[3:35] They'll see that the tax bill is in danger.
[3:37] But anyway, they believe it's in danger anyway, so we just let them have it right in the chops.
[3:41] I didn't do it.
[3:42] It's a big, big portrait of us, right?
[3:44] So, be proud of us.
[3:54] Well, it, you know, like science goes away, you know, don't hold political science for too long.
[3:58] It's really, it's a, we have, we, they're, they, I call them like wickers.
[4:05] Very, one of the few exceptions.
[4:10] Most, most lives are not in the organization.
[4:14] And they work.
[4:20] That's right.
[4:32] Yeah, I saw that one.
[4:33] One of the things that's a very good point.
[4:35] Yeah, right.
[4:36] All right.
[4:37] Well, you have to be the way you are.
[4:39] That's right.
[4:39] That's right.
[4:42] Okay.
[4:43] Well, this is not something I'm very good at.
[4:53] I'm not going to change this point.
[4:55] I'll get it in here.
[5:18] The markets are, because of, and I do probably, in this instance, a combination of things, where we can start to see the economy was, had a lot of over-strengthening, and also the international practice, because that affects things, and you can't have all these meetings going on until it's kind of settled.
[5:34] So that makes the gold wires, the rest of it, when you're on the ground.
[5:51] They have to adjust.
[6:04] They have to adjust the heaters.
[6:27] All right, son.
[8:29] Thank you.
[8:54] I use it as the start of the second paragraph of the president's reference.
[9:23] I would say, instead of a limited library, you suggest that it wasn't mined.
[9:34] Uh, he was, he was destined to be mined.
[9:44] He didn't get it with him.
[9:47] By, by, uh, uh, a lion.
[9:54] But by encouraging the period, a lot of the period, to concentrate on the presidential candidate selection of the general delegation of the private sector.
[10:05] That's the good point.
[10:30] It's all right.
[10:47] Isabel, I would like to take your last sentence here at the top of page two and put it immediately after the preparation for the political party.
[10:59] Sorry, Senator.
[11:00] Would you like to start this year?
[11:02] I don't know.
[11:03] I'll put that right after the preparation for the political party.
[11:07] Thank you, Senator.
[11:24] I said yes to the Jack Kennedy and so did Harry Truman.
[11:28] The
[11:54] The question is, govern effectively.
[11:55] And it's generally considered.
[11:57] I remember as a member of the Judiciary Committee of the House, when we consulted with constitutional experts throughout the country, they felt that a president ought to get at least 40% of the votes.
[12:06] And this sort of an idea will produce probably 35% presidents.
[12:09] Maybe you can't be quite as standard.
[12:14] I don't know.
[12:15] Mr. President, I'm going to ask you to govern effectively.
[12:19] How about we run a real danger, but you know, keep up with us.
[12:22] We'll enjoy it.
[12:23] Very seriously run.
[12:25] We run very, very seriously.
[12:29] Now.
[12:30] I think, I was, I think I would like to see something that would possibly
[12:49] With regard to the fact that I, President, I don't want to leave the impression here that we're going to let it be proven instead.
[13:04] I want to explain something to the effect that the President believes that the
[13:24] A responsible tax relief bill is announced today.
[13:30] It's announced during this session of Congress.
[13:34] And the intent is to
[13:58] Master, where are you?
[14:27] I'm sure they're going to push me on that.
[14:42] So that I don't give away what would be the big gun that you, that we're talking about you firing after three to three is to indicate that I'm not going to, but I know the president feels strongly about his tax proposals that, uh,
[14:58] There are several steps down the road.
[15:00] I'm not going to speculate about what the political process will be, but the President believes that the Congress can and should act responsibly.
[15:16] And the President is going to take whatever actions.
[15:28] And I think it was...
[15:48] And I can say that this Congress must not adjourn.
[15:53] I believe this Congress must not adjourn until it has passed a responsible tax relief bill, which will, a responsible tax relief bill,
[16:47] What is recognized as a highly partisan political profession
[17:18] which has not had any errors, and so forth, should not be allowed to jeopardize this.
[17:25] Actually, we just want to say thank you.
[17:28] But you have to let it go.
[17:29] I mean, you have to go out and do it.
[17:31] We can't.
[17:32] I think it's going to change.
[17:35] All right.
[17:35] Thank you so much.
[17:36] We're going to break up this slide.
[17:40] Thank you.
[17:41] California to be sure.
[17:43] Thank you so much.
[17:45] We've got three hours this morning to make the point of what you decided this morning.
[18:01] We'll pin that for this morning's meeting.
[18:13] I told you, you didn't have to talk about the return.
[18:15] That's not what you're... Perhaps there's not going to be any more of that.
[18:19] No, I told you last week I'd probably go back.
[18:21] Sorry, Mike.
[18:21] There was... You've not accepted it.
[18:23] And I didn't mean it.
[18:24] Because I am.
[18:26] Because I knew this certainly might come up.
[18:31] Good luck, Mike.
[18:32] Thank you, sir.
[18:35] I think it's the right time to do it.
[18:37] Not stock market now.
[18:39] It's up 14.
[18:40] We're down 14 now.
[18:41] That's all right.
[18:42] We'll go from there.
[18:46] Go up.
[18:46] Like this?
[18:47] Well, it's sort of a miscommunication.
[18:53] Yeah.
[18:53] Now, they're so timid up there.
[18:55] They'll say, oh, they're just going to be doing tax notes.
[18:57] That would be what they're going to do.
[19:01] I'm sorry.
[19:02] Wasn't wanting to make you sorry.
[19:04] I was absolutely loyal to you.