Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 626-013
Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1971 at 5:10 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Woods, Rose Mary
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/626-013

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[0:00] Don't worry about it, buddy.
[0:02] I'll walk closer.
[0:03] I don't have time to see you.
[0:27] Well, we have that day in the White House, and, uh, you know, the first thing he said, and I think it was, you know, the first thing he said was, you know, the first thing he said was, you know,
[1:09] Oh, I forgot to bring my purse.
[1:10] Can you speak to him?
[1:13] Oh, okay.
[1:15] We'll get it over to him if you want.
[1:18] It's a clean copy.
[1:27] Yes.
[1:28] Yes, please.
[1:29] He's in the right office.
[1:31] He was not in the right office.
[1:32] He was wrong.
[1:34] That must have been awful for him.
[1:38] Well, he's right.
[1:40] He has a very helpful kid.
[1:41] Uh-huh.
[1:42] He's fast.
[1:43] He has to be nice with kids, you know.
[1:46] Uh-huh.
[1:48] He's a good speed.
[1:57] That's a lot of people today.
[2:09] We know nothing to really have to bother you about.
[2:12] But I can think of at the moment, I've noticed on everything.
[2:27] Well, Roger Johnson came in to see me to ask if you really wanted him to go somewhere else.
[2:41] Yeah.
[2:41] It would be a better job for him.
[2:46] He's going to die over there.
[2:50] Travel with these people?
[2:52] Travel with them.
[2:52] You can't start a man at 62 or 63 or whatever being an advanced man.
[2:58] The young kids find it hard to keep up with that stuff.
[3:09] He just wants to know if you want him to go talk.
[3:11] He's never met Mosbacher and he just did not want to take the word.
[3:16] What he got was that John, that he came in and talked to me.
[3:20] Just see what he says.
[3:21] Because he came back and called him and said that he wanted to go.
[3:25] I told Matt at the time, well, if he, Roger, wanted to go, you know, you wanted him to do what he wanted to or something.
[3:32] He'll do whatever he wants to.
[3:34] But I told him to try to find out.
[3:38] Well, I think we can see what he thinks.
[3:39] Because I know they don't know what they're going to do with him.
[3:46] I don't know, I mean, he might be, he's a very nice, sweet man, but...
[4:16] We've got to get him out of Argentina.
[4:20] Oh, he's trying to take over the government there?
[4:26] No, no, no.
[4:27] You know, we don't realize that some of our old friends, you know... Oh, I've put up with that old friend for a long time.
[4:36] Just do that.
[4:40] You mean he only has to get out?
[4:41] Watch.
[4:43] No, no, but then he said Spain too, or do you mean the other one?
[4:46] The old one, the one with the governor.
[4:49] And the other one, Whitney, you mean?
[4:50] Yeah, the one with Louie Dunlop, they can't send him.
[4:58] He wouldn't be good enough.
[4:59] Yeah, I remember you said you were sad about it.
[5:02] You looked at me.
[5:05] I showed you too much of my creativity.
[5:08] Oh yeah, he's just senile.
[5:09] And of course the other thing is that we turn people down.
[5:13] who I'm testing out as he is.
[5:14] He's 72 years old or something.
[5:17] He's too old for a country that might have a problem, might have a big problem of the changeover.
[5:23] I think that.
[5:24] Well, you know, we live in exciting times.
[5:30] I hated this last year, what we thought we could do.
[5:33] All these songs, every one of them was a song, you know, it was a war.
[5:43] It really is.
[5:46] It's fantastic.
[5:48] It really is amazing.
[5:54] When do you do the Italians now?
[6:04] When you go over to the French one?
[6:12] I'm going to save myself.
[6:14] I'm going to be one hell of a lot better than that mouse.
[6:22] This is part of the future of this country.
[6:29] All the little things that I do, I'm just going to be in shape for them.
[6:35] That's right.
[6:58] Oh, really?
[7:03] It's dark today?
[7:11] I'm only doing it because you see that it's the man of the year.
[7:14] I've got to do it.
[7:17] Well, if they're giving you that, they should have given you that a long time ago.
[7:21] They're giving you that and I'm all for it, but that's a black flag.
[7:26] It should have been a black flag.
[7:29] Oh, don't worry.
[7:29] That's why we were there early in the interview.
[7:34] Because I think that article, I guess it was law of attorney, I know Willie Edwards, you know, that...
[7:41] Willie, I guess.
[7:42] No, I'm talking about the Nobel Prize.
[7:46] Oh, boy.
[7:48] But that was... Well, then you have these jackasses in this country who are screaming and thinking it's marvelous to give it to Willie Brandt.
[7:57] We made it possible.
[7:59] Huh?
[7:59] Huh?
[8:11] Yeah, uh... Well, uh, cover that for me.
[8:16] I'd rather like you to kiss me, kiss me down for once.
[8:23] Uh...
[8:23] I'll tell you when I'm ready, uh, you'll come here now, keep, keep this, keep this side of the seat over here.
[8:32] Well, I'll say it in person.
[8:35] All right.