Conversation: 626-012
Prev: 626-011 Next: 626-013Start Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1971 8:48 PM
End Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1971 10:10 PM
Participants:
Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Bull, Stephen B.; White House operator; MacGregor, Clark; Reed, David; Lewis, Hobart D.; White House photographer; Sanchez, Manolo; [Unknown person(s)]Recording Device: Oval Office
Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 03:07:36
Full Tape Conversation End Time: 04:26:35
NARA Description:
On November 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Stephen B. Bull, White House operator, Clark MacGregor, David Reed, Hobart D. Lewis, White House photographer, Manolo Sanchez, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:48 pm to 5:10 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 626-012 of the White House Tapes.
Nixon Library Finding Aid:
Conversation No. 626-12
Date: November 30, 1971
Time: 3:48 pm - 5:10 pm
Location: Oval Office
The President met with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.
The President's schedule
-Hobart D. (“Hobe”) Lewis
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 3:48 pm.
-Lewis and David Reed
Bull left at an unknown time before 3:55 pm.
Earl L. Butz
-Confirmation
-Clark MacGregor's call to Haldeman
-Charles H. Percy and Hugh Scott
-Prospect of vote
-The President's possible role
-MacGregor's call to Haldeman
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 626-12 (cont.)
-Tax check-off issue
-Possible conversation with the President
The President talked with the White House operator at an unknown time between 3:48 pm and
3:55 pm.
[Conversation No. 626-12A]
[See Conversation No. 15-175]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's schedule
-National Security Council [NSC] meeting
-Forthcoming speech on aged
-NSC meeting
-William P. Rogers's schedule
-Golda Meir
The President talked with Clark MacGregor between 3:55 pm and 3:58 pm.
[Conversation No. 626-12B]
[See Conversation No. 15-176]
[End of telephone conversation]
The President's schedule
-NSC meeting
-Possible agenda
-Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT]
-North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO]
-National 4-H Congress speech
-Congressional candidates
-Unknown man from Vermont
-Possible photograph opportunity
-Raymond H. Nutter
-Kentucky
-John C. Watts
-Unknown man from Vermont
-Opponents of incumbent Democrats
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 626-12 (cont.)
-Jack R. Miller
-Television appearance
-George H. Mahon
-President of Texas Tech University
-Invitation for the President to address American Association of Engineers
-The President's forthcoming trip to People's Republic of China [PRC]
-Possible book to be written
-Lewis’s view
-James A. Michener
-Unknown person
-Forthcoming conversation with unknown person
-Size of party
-Press
-Possible book
-Michener
-Theodore H. White
-Interviews
-Herbert G. Klein's views
-Associated Press [AP]
-United Press International [UPI]
-American Society of Newspaper Editors [ASNE]
-Editorial boards
-The President's trip to PRC
-Parade Magazine
-Responses to written questions
-The President's record
Congress
-Previous vote on repealing “315”
-Democrats
-Pending legislation
-Tax Bill
-Arthur Summerfield and unknown person
Lewis, Reed and the White House photographer entered and Haldeman left at 4:06 pm.
Introductions
Reed's experience
-Vietnam
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 626-12 (cont.)
Forthcoming interview
-Ronald L. Ziegler
The White House photographer left at an unknown time before 5:10 pm.
-Fiftieth anniversary of Reader's Digest
Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 4:06 pm.
Refreshments
Sanchez left at an unknown time before 5:10 pm.
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Preparation of article on forthcoming interview
-US News and World Report interviews
Vietnam
-Cessation of conflict
-Negotiations
-Vietnamization
Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 4:06 pm.
[Unintelligible]
Bull left at an unknown time before 5:10 pm.
Vietnam
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 626-12 (cont.)
-US role
-Casualties
-Troop strength
-South Vietnamese
-Prisoners of war [POWs]
-Duration
-Forthcoming announcement
-Draftees
-Duration
-Combat
-Casualties
-South Vietnamese
-US goals
US role in world
-Conflicts
-Asia
-Latin America
Southeast Asia
-North Vietnamese military dispositions
-Vietnam
-Prospects
-Cambodia
-Prospects
PRC
-Relations with US
-Role in Korea, Indonesia and Vietnam
-Relations with US
-US relations with other Asian nations
-The President's article in Foreign Affairs in 1967
-Population
-Future prospects
-PRC relations with Soviet Union
-Relations with US
-Benefits
-Philosophical differences
-Nuclear weapons
-Trade
-Possible conflict
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 626-12 (cont.)
-US treaty obligations
-Japan
-Taiwan
-Philippines
-Korea
-Vietnam
National defense
-Disarmament
-SALT
-Progress
-Philosophies and interests of US and Soviet Union
-As percentage of Gross National Product [GNP]
-Compared with previous administrations
-Compared with Soviet Union
-SALT
-Prospects
-US credibility
-Leonid I. Brezhnev and Aleksei N. Kosygin
Middle East
An unknown person entered at an unknown time after 4:06 pm.
[Unintelligible]
The unknown person left at an unknown time before 5:10 pm.
US relations with Soviet Union
-Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos
-PRC and Soviet Union interests
-Berlin
-Middle East
Middle East
-Importance
-US policy
-US-Soviet Union relations
-Israel and Egypt
-Jordan crisis in 1971
-US and Soviet views
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 626-12 (cont.)
-Compared with India-Pakistan
US relations with Soviet Union
-World Wars I and II
-[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson
-H. G. Wells
-Glassboro summit
-Dwight D. Eisenhower's meeting at Camp David
-The President's forthcoming trip to Soviet Union
-Preparations
-Previous talks
US relations with PRC
-Rimland of Asia
National defense
-US, Soviet Union and PRC
-Europe
-Japan
US economy vis-a-vis world
-Competition
-Marshall Plan
-European Economic Community
-Common Market
-Soviet Union
-PRC
-Taiwan and Singapore
-Japan
-Herman Kahn's view
-Latin America
-Africa
-Competition
-Isolationism
-Competition
-Example of Paavo Nurmi
-Eisenhower administration
-Peaceful intentions of US
-Isolationism
-Import surcharge
-Competition
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NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF
Tape Subject Log
(rev. 10/06)
Conv. No. 626-12 (cont.)
-Age of industrial equipment
-Depreciation
-Government subsidies
-Isolationism
-Vietnam
-Korea
Vietnam
-Possible effect of communist military success
-Effect on American spirit
-The President's policy
Publication of interview
-Editing
[Unintelligible]
Presentation of gifts by the President
-Reed's children
Lewis and Reed left at 5:10 pm.