Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 628-005
Date: Thursday, December 2, 1971 at 12:17 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; Bull, Stephen B.
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/628-005

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[0:06] One thing, again, I don't think about you.
[0:09] I know that when they're small, I don't like to put someone in a row because it would, you know, balance it very well.
[0:16] We had a registered call over our next visit.
[0:21] Yeah, he's a Canadian man.
[0:23] Okay, I thought you would, but I... As I say, when it's that few, I can take it and put anybody in who wouldn't be good.
[0:31] Okay, good.
[0:31] Yeah, it becomes fair.
[0:33] And then Mrs. Bacon wrote to me and said, she understood from you that an award was going to be given to Mr. Archimedes, didn't she?
[0:43] And I wondered...
[0:54] I mean, she says he's been decorated by all men and all the government, right?
[0:57] I think we've been to the...
[1:06] I don't know.
[1:06] I'll see if he still plays.
[1:08] Yes, he still does.
[1:09] I've done a couple of lists.
[1:11] She said that he told Kendall.
[1:12] I haven't seen him.
[1:13] I haven't seen him.
[1:14] I haven't seen him.
[1:26] And then, so I know I asked the other day, and I'm not pushing, I just thought so I can know, you know, when I say yes and no to a hearing, whether you will, whether I will be going on the, you know, these early trips or not, you know, whether that is it.
[1:45] Or whether you even have time to discuss it.
[2:03] Well, I don't need a question at this time, yeah.
[2:11] Yeah, you've got to rule this time.
[2:13] I don't know.
[2:14] I've got to find out whether these financial indicators and so forth and so on.
[2:21] Some statements...
[2:31] Yeah, I will let you know.
[2:33] Well, I came with him.
[2:34] I said, I'm going to take him to lunch.
[2:36] I told him to come tomorrow instead of today, because tomorrow he would definitely be gone.
[2:40] Yeah.
[2:40] How's he doing?
[2:42] Oh, he's still outside the park.
[2:44] He's still talking about some water project from Mexico that he talked to me on a year ago.
[2:50] His other name went busted, didn't it?
[2:53] He's basically on it.
[2:55] Did he go bankrupt?
[2:55] Oh, bankrupt.
[2:57] No, that's...
[2:59] He did, especially.
[3:02] Jack Downs.
[3:03] Jack Downs, yeah.
[3:04] Quite a few people I've met.
[3:05] We often just tried to help him then, you know, but he said he had to pay Ed and make more money than government.
[3:19] Poor guy, he said he just dreamed and fiddled his life away because he had good money.
[3:25] Or else he nagged his life away.
[3:28] He probably needed to nag.
[3:30] Very good.
[3:39] So he said, but I was wondering, I was going to have him in today, but I told him that today was busy.
[3:47] Well, I didn't ask to see, but I wanted you to be out of town, so I could see yesterday when she comes.
[3:54] And that was great.
[3:57] But after that, I didn't need to be there for her.
[4:00] Well, Bob, I talked to Bob about it, and we, um, I wrote him, and someone called him at that point.
[4:07] We could put him on some pay to come check something.
[4:11] Excuse me, Mr. President, uh, Clark McRaven needs to speak to you for one moment on the tax matter.
[4:18] He's right on the sideline.