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Start Date: 2-Dec-1971 2:19 PM

End Date: 2-Dec-1971 2:50 PM

Participants:

Nixon, Richard M. (President)Metcalf, Gordon M.Batten, William M.Shultz, George P.Moore, Richard A.Ziegler, Ronald L.White House photographerBull, Stephen B.

Recording Device: Oval Office

Full Tape Conversation Start Time: 02:44:51

Full Tape Conversation End Time: 03:16:37

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628b.mp3

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NARA Description:

On December 2, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Gordon M. Metcalf, William M. Batten, George P. Shultz, Richard A. Moore, Ronald L. Ziegler, White House photographer, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:19 pm to 2:50 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 628-013 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid:

Conversation No. 628-13

Date: December 2, 1971
Time: 2:19 pm - 2:50 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Gordon M. Metcalf, William M. Batten, George P. Shultz, Richard A.
Moore and Ronald L. Ziegler; the White House photographer and members of the press were
present at the beginning of the meeting.

     Greetings
     Photograph

     Economy
         -Sears Roebuck sales
         -Retail sales figures

[Unintelligible]

                   -December
                   -Fall season
                                  27

               NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                          Tape Subject Log
                            (rev. 10/06)
                                                    Conv. No. 628-13 (cont.)


            -Success
      -Geographic breakdowns
            -November, 1970
                  -Percentages
                        -Chicago
                        -Pittsburgh
                        -Dallas
                        -Cleveland
                        -California
                              -Statistics
-Advertising
      -Television
            -Changes over the years
      -Sears
            -Tag line
-Inflation
      -Potential set backs
-J.C. Penney sales
      -Percentages
            -Seattle
                  -Los Angeles
            -Managers
            -Southeast
                  -Miami
            -Midwest
            -November
            -Breakdown
            -Competition
                  -Slight setbacks
-Controls
-Stores in San Francisco
      -Number
-Organized labor compared to unorganized labor
      -Bargaining position
      -Differences
-November
-Tax bill
      -Perception of
            -Effect on retail sales
      -Campaign expenses
      -Candidates for political office
                                              28

                             NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                  Conv. No. 628-13 (cont.)


                      -Methods of raising money
                -Congress
                -Taxpayers
                -Special interest groups
                -The American economic system
                      -Predictions for Christmas season
                            -Boost for economy
            -Wage-price freeze
                -September
                      -Retail forecast
                            -Percentages

     Golf
            -Recreation
            -Merrill Lynch

     Economy
         -Stock market
              -Reactions
         -Sears
              -Shares
                   -Number
                   -Dow exchange
                         -History
                              -Dr. Arthur A. Fletcher [?]

     California
          -Possible trip by the President
                -Timing

[General conversation]

Metcalf, Batten, Shultz and Moore left at 2:42 pm.

     Tax bill
          -Campaign check off
              -Conference committee

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 2:42 pm.

     Earl L. Butz's swearing-in ceremony
                                               29

                           NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF

                                      Tape Subject Log
                                        (rev. 10/06)
                                                                      Conv. No. 628-13 (cont.)


           -Timing

Bull left at an unknown time before 2:50 pm.

[Ziegler taking notes in the background]

     Tax bill
          -Campaign check off
              -The President's statement
                   -Legislative process
              -Possible veto
              -Ziegler
              -Clark MacGregor's statement
                   -Repeal
              -The President's statement
                   -The American political system
                   -Congress
                          -First session
              -Ziegler's comments
                   -Possible effects on 1972 Presidential elections
                   -Compromise
                   -Veto
              -The President's statement
              -Veto
              -Legislative matter
              -Veto
              -House
                   -Henry A. Kissinger
                   -Future events

Ziegler left at 2:50 pm.