{"conversationCode":"629-005","tapeNumber":629,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-629-005","startDateTime":"1971-12-06T14:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-06T14:09:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Dec-1971","startTime":"9:07 AM","endDate":"6-Dec-1971","endTime":"9:09 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rogers, William P.;","description":"On December 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William P. Rogers met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:07 am to 9:09 am. 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Nixon directs Rogers to follow up with House leaders after 4:00 pm to coordinate efforts on an upcoming vote.","topics":["Indo-Pakistani War","United Nations","Legislative Relations","Foreign Policy","Congressional Strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:20:53.902Z"},"topicSlugs":["indo-pakistani-war","united-nations","legislative-relations","foreign-policy","congressional-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":135,"audioFiles":[{"file":"629-005.mp3","bytes":5413403,"durationSec":135.2,"bitrate":320317,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.362Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/629-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/629-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/629/conversation-629-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}