{"conversationCode":"630-005","tapeNumber":630,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-630-005","startDateTime":"1971-12-06T17:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-06T17:35:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Dec-1971","startTime":"12:32 PM","endDate":"6-Dec-1971","endTime":"12:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On December 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:35 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 630-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 630-005\n\nDate: December 6, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:32 pm and 12:35 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Bill signing\n          -Rose Mary Woods\n          -Call to Alexander P. Butterfield\n                -Time\n\nThe President talked with an unknown person at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:35\npm\n\n[Conversation No. 630-5A]\n\n     Preparation\n          -Unknown man\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:35 pm.","filename":["630-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:36:12","tapeEnd":"00:38:45","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"630-004","nextCode":"630-006","transcript":[{"start":0.13,"end":2.27,"text":"President, I only have two minutes for a bill, son."},{"start":2.77,"end":4.6,"text":"All right, son, I'll get right into it."},{"start":4.64,"end":7.5,"text":"I've already got a lot of response, and I'll get them."},{"start":7.52,"end":9.72,"text":"I'll get them in five minutes."},{"start":9.8,"end":13.35,"text":"Rosa, would you want to see me ask you a couple of questions?"},{"start":13.37,"end":15.07,"text":"I have a question for you."},{"start":15.09,"end":16.49,"text":"I'm just going to take a moment."},{"start":16.59,"end":18.39,"text":"I'm just going to take a moment."},{"start":54.99,"end":55.55,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":55.59,"end":55.95,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":56.05,"end":56.47,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":56.49,"end":56.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":84.5,"end":85.76,"text":"Yeah, well, I was here for a couple of citizens last year."},{"start":85.78,"end":89.86,"text":"I can give you this letter."},{"start":89.88,"end":91.42,"text":"No, uh, it's just I didn't get the key, but I thought I'd give it to you."},{"start":91.44,"end":91.94,"text":"Yeah, sorry about that."},{"start":95.21,"end":95.29,"text":"No."},{"start":95.33,"end":95.61,"text":"I understand."},{"start":114.73,"end":116.03,"text":"I'm not sure we'll do that."},{"start":116.72,"end":121.46,"text":"Unless they had prepared it for us."},{"start":121.9,"end":132.53,"text":"It would be too hard to get across at this point."},{"start":144.4,"end":151.26,"text":"Yeah, buddy, and also, uh, we just kind of worry about how many of us are going to die."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull in the Oval Office to coordinate his immediate daily schedule, specifically regarding an upcoming bill signing and a telephone call to Alexander P. Butterfield. The brief discussion touched on administrative logistics and the involvement of Rose Mary Woods. The interaction concluded with preparations for a secondary conversation involving an unknown participant.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Bill signing","Alexander Butterfield","Rose Mary Woods","Administrative coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:21:45.296Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","bill-signing","alexander-butterfield","rose-mary-woods","administrative-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":152,"audioFiles":[{"file":"630-005.mp3","bytes":6098856,"durationSec":152.34,"bitrate":320274,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.361Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/630-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/630-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/630/conversation-630-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}