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Nixon, Young & Edwards on Public Relations and Awards and Recognition

Monday, December 6, 1971 · 12:39 PM–12:59 PM ET · Oval Office · 19 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; White House operator; Butterfield, Alexander P.; Young, Milton R.; Bull, Stephen B.; Edwards, Willard; White House photographer; [Unknown person(s)]Conversation630-007 on Tape 630 (tape position 00:42:40–01:01:40)StartMonday, December 6, 1971 at 12:39 PMEndMonday, December 6, 1971 at 12:59 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 630-007 ↗

President Nixon met with Senator Milton R. Young and journalist Willard Edwards to discuss various administrative tasks, including sending congratulatory notes and certificates of recognition to citizens for heroic acts. The participants reviewed personal correspondence and discussed arrangements for upcoming holiday observances. Additionally, the President took time to recognize Willard Edwards for his long-standing career in journalism, marking his professional longevity with a birthday acknowledgment.

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Senator Young.
Okay, that's the day.
Yeah, I have a lot of plans.
First, I wonder, would you like to send a note to Jackie, please?
Oh, yeah.
It's all right.
Dear Jackie, when you invited me to come to the golf tournament in Florida on February 21, I thought I would be able to get on schedule in order to probably impress
That is the date that I arrived in the camp.
And the SSP got with me.
The 100 were with me in both places at the same time.
I particularly regret that I cannot be with you because the proceeds from this tournament, as I understand it, will go to the Boy Scouts.
is an organization that has a very special place in my heart.
I wish you to present my best wishes to all the big body owners out there.
And also to the losers.
I will and I'll hold on to the deal.
I will and I'll hold on to the deal.
Hey.
Hello.
Bob.
We had a rain sign in for that turn.
We're setting off a bus to go to the moon here.
We're going back to this boy's house in America.
If that's the case, you can check with, uh...
Uh, uh, Nervoso.
And he, I think, he's, you know, he's on a voice on his board, and he's working with Don Campbell to see if he can arrange for that.
If that has a range, but if he doesn't know how to drive, arrange for a rock song, which I thought was an extra reward for the winner of the tournament.
This is a letter from a grandmother about a little boy who was saving his whole family from fire last Sunday.
Senator, please hand out your certificates to him.
God bless you, brother.
Thank you.
8-0-4.
I wonder how you know.
Oh, yes.
Oh, sure.
Just say it again.
Still so many questions.
Yeah, I'm giving one of our certificates of recognition for our service of heroes in the case to be.
Also, if you will, I'm from Ohio.
And be sure, in this case, the local paper gets it.
It's probably a small town.
I think this should be done also for this young Richard Johnson, who I think he was really interested in raising kids.
He actually saved the lives of a family when their little station wagon was caught and the freight train was coming.
This kid is only 15.
And he sort of watched the trains every night, knew what time he came, knew the family would be killed, and got them out just in time.
Perfect.
So his boyfriends or schoolmates call him to tune out.
So I think he should have a special one.
Yeah, I sent him a certificate for recognition.
Apparently seven people were saved as a result of this.
and then send a little note that I wanted to have a look at.
I thought it would be great to see, uh, what was there that he had as a hobby?
Watching trains, hearing the cars,
I was his age, growing up in a small town in California.
I always thought I would like to be a real lady here.
I never heard of him.
I never heard of him.
I never heard of him.
I never heard of him.
I never heard of him.
Let's put it in the name of, uh, well, no.
Let's make it, let's make the Christmas Seals Constitution.
Why did we make the congregation in the name of Mrs. McCormick and Terry McCormick this year?
If that would be an exception, I'd love to see it.
We, of course, had a reading, but a PD would have had an exception.
I think that would be as complete as always.
I'm very near to the seat of the governor's floor.
I'm going to cross it.
Indeed, I'm going to leave for you to read.
There's two essays from young boys in Arizona, and it's so good that I think you'd like to put those in your reading box.
How do they use interviews to teach for the boys?
I think an attorney from Arizona has been one of the judges that you'd like to read.
So, really, it's very good.
Now, the main thing is that I want letters from you, please.
Good.
I'd love to know about that.
Now, let's go.
Wait, I don't get it.
Hello?
Hello, Milt?
Hello?
Milt?
I know that in these closing days of the session, you're probably coming out of the Senate, but I'm just checking my files here to sign off to your happy birthday today.
I couldn't have a call that was done so much for us down there, and, you know, and carrying on those appropriations that he's addressed to go by without telling me congratulations.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, we had many happy returns.
I don't need to say many happy returns to the election, because nobody ever even runs for president.
Never.
Okay, though.
All right.
All right.
This case, I ran off last night.
I ran off.
You know, I think that's a good band picture.
Edgerton?
That doesn't make any sense.
I think what the problem is, and what he should have done, was to drop the drinks and have him sit in the back.
What is the situation?
This boy is injured.
Well, I'm just wondering about the first name on that.
I don't know.
Is the drill here?
It should be here in just a moment.
You want me to set it right?
Yeah.
That's how he is.
Doesn't matter.
It's the, uh, he's a person.
You have to see what kind of person he's going to be with a tattoo.
You see that?
Yes.
I'll have to check.
This is the exhibit, the paralyzed treacherous chase.
It's part of the way the wolf cries when he comes in.
The paintbrush may be changed teeth.
I couldn't do this with both my hands.
I couldn't either.
It really is inspiring.
That's great.
It absolutely reminds me of the blind and the spoiled.
You know, they came in here and had a marvelous culture, and they did really good dancing.
She did it.
I'm tired of the feel.
I don't know what I feel.
I'm on a special note.
Special note.
I thought you might like to see that letter and maybe say hello to all of you.
I don't get to do this.
This is an average.
It's hard to do.
All right.
Close.
Start breathing.
I'll take care of it.
Mr. President?
How are you?
I didn't realize you were that old.
Fifty years is a long time.
You've covered, you've covered me with all half of your life, haven't you?
No, because basically you started at the back of the station.
That's right.
I heard.
Forty-eight.
Forty-eight.
And, uh...
In fact, before that, actually.
Oh, yeah.
So we've got a house here.
We've got a house here.
We've got a house here.
We've got a house here.
We've got a house here.
We've got a house here.
We've got a house here.
We've got a house here.
I can remember very well the morning after the election.
You had no bitterness.
You were totally assessing what you thought that it caused the speech without fitness.
And I felt at that time you were already planning for it.
I didn't think about it at that time.
Let me give you something now, Steve, for a birthday present.
I said, money, son.
I mean, anybody that's worked for 50 years ought to have money.
Well, you know, there was a time when you just didn't have money.
You have a number, sir.
You have a number, sir.
You have a number, sir.
You have a number, sir.
All right.
All right.
All right.
I don't believe that she is.
Now, this is the 40th.
It's the 30th, 30th, 30th.
How old are we?
To me, 40 is today.
That's right.
40 is last.
I buy that.
I buy that.
Good to see you.
Well, anyway.
Thank you very much, Bob.
I'm glad to see you.
Keep working.
I'm looking forward to the next year.
Keep the call.
It won't be long.
Goodbye.

On December 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, White House operator, Alexander P. Butterfield, Milton R. Young, Stephen B. Bull, Willard Edwards, the White House photographer, and unknown person(s) from a National Broadcasting Channel (NBC) film crew met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:39 pm to 12:59 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 630-007 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 630-007

Date: December 6, 1971
Time: 12:39 pm - 12:59 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Rose Mary Woods.

The President talked with the White House operator at 12:39 pm.

[Conversation No. 630-7A]

[See Conversation No. 16-21]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Schedule

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

            -Note to Herbert J. (“Jackie”) Gleason
                 -Dictation
                 -President’s schedule
                       -People's Republic of China [PRC] trip
                       -Golf tournament
                             -Timing
                                   -Regrets from the President
                             -Boys’ Clubs of America

The White House operator talked with the President at an unknown time between 12:39 pm and
12:49 pm.

[Conversation No. 630-7B]

[See Conversation No. 16-22]

[End of telephone conversation]

     Gleason golf tournament
          -Golf clubs
                -Prize
                -Winner
                -Boys' Clubs of America
                      -Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo
                           -Member of the board [?]

     Heroic acts
          -Letter from a grandmother
                -Little boy saved family from fire
                       -Certificate of recognition
                       -Ohio
                       -Local paper
          -Richard Johnson
                -Saved family from train
                -Certificate of recognition
                       -Number of people saved
                -Note from the President
                       -President reminiscing about his youth

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/26/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[630-007-w001]
[Duration: 42s]

       The President’s correspondence
              -The President’s annual Christmas Seal contribution
                      -On behalf of Harriet McCormack
                      -Letter to John W. McCormack
              -John W. McCormack

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     Essays
          -From young Arizona boys
          -An attorney
          -Letters from the President to the boys

Alexander P. Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 12:39 pm.

     Notes

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:49 pm.

     Dictaphone

The President talked with the Milton R. Young between 12:49 pm and 12:50 pm.

[Conversation No. 630-7C]

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       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/26/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[630-007-w002]
[Duration: 6s]

[See Conversation No. 016-023]

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[End of telephone conversation]

     Photographs
          -Family portrait

     Lunch
          -Willard Edwards
                -Attendance

     Call from Julie Nixon Eisenhower

Butterfield entered at an unknown time after 12:50 pm.

     Situation
           -Disappointed seniors [?]

Butterfield left at an unknown time before 12:56 pm.

     Woods’ list [?]

Stephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 12:50 pm.

     Schedule
          -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                -Meeting

Bull left at an unknown time before 12:56 pm.

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

     Difficulties

     President’s schedule
           -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

     Veterans
          -Disabled
               -Paralyzed
               -Compared to a blind boy
               -Letter

Edwards entered at 12:56 pm; the White House photographer and an National Broadcasting
Company [NBC] file crew were present.

     Edwards
         -The President's photographer
              -Edwards’ relationship with the President
              -1948 Congressional race
              -House Labor Committee
              -Taft-Hartley

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/26/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[630-007-w003]
[Duration: 32s]

       Willard Edwards
              -The President’s photographer
                     -Willard Edwards’s relationship with the President
                              -President’s 1960 presidential campaign
                                     -President’s attitude after being defeated
              -President’s birthday present for Willard Edwards

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       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

       Willard Edwards
                -Cuff links
                -Wage-price freeze

     Woods’ age

Woods and Edwards left at 12:59 pm.
  • 016-021 12:19 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:19 pm and 12:49 pm.
  • 016-022 12:19 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:19 pm and 12:49 pm.
  • 630-004 12:32 PM · 4 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:35 pm.
  • 630-005 12:32 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:32 pm and 12:35 pm.
  • 630-006 12:35 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:35 pm to 12:39 pm.
  • 016-023 12:49 PM · 41 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Milton R. Young talked on the telephone from 12:49 pm to 12:50 pm.
  • 016-024 12:50 PM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:50 pm and 1:05 pm.
  • 630-008 12:59 PM · 13 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, White House operator, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:59 pm to 1:11 pm.

Conversation 630-007, December 6, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/630-007 (accessed October 11, 2026).