{"conversationCode":"630-015","tapeNumber":630,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-630-015","startDateTime":"1971-12-06T20:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-06T20:34:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Dec-1971","startTime":"3:30 PM","endDate":"6-Dec-1971","endTime":"3:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On December 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:30 pm to 3:34 pm. 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Kissinger\n                      -Haldeman’s forthcoming talk with Kissinger\n               -Proposed cabinet meeting\n                      -Need for closure\n               -Stans’ reporting to the President\n               -USSR\n                      -Suggested plan\n                      -Kissinger\n               -President’s upcoming meeting with Stans\n                      -Timing\n\n     White House dinner for Pierre E. Trudeau, December 6, 1971\n          -George P. Shultz\n               -Invitation to dinner\n               -John D. Ehrlichman\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:34 pm.\n\n[Conversation No. 630-15A]\n\n     Dinner\n          -Shultz\n                -Invitation\n                      -Problems\n          -Brazilians\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n     Dinner\n          -Shultz\n                -Absence at dinner\n                     -Problems [?]\n                     -British\n                     -French\n\nHaldeman left at 3:34 pm.","filename":["630-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:42:54","tapeEnd":"01:48:12","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"630-014","nextCode":"630-016","transcript":[{"start":0.93,"end":2.55,"text":"Just one quick thing."},{"start":2.57,"end":9.98,"text":"We just, on Bermuda, down at the bridge, I'm very anxious if you can say a government house."},{"start":10.12,"end":14.56,"text":"I see you probably have to."},{"start":14.6,"end":16.64,"text":"Put it in my book."},{"start":17.2,"end":19.36,"text":"It gives you some of the privacy."},{"start":23.33,"end":24.73,"text":"I put one thing down."},{"start":27.28,"end":29.3,"text":"Strong Thurman wants to bring his baby into the picture."},{"start":29.32,"end":30.82,"text":"I am talking to Paul."},{"start":30.94,"end":31.68,"text":"It's Thursday."},{"start":31.7,"end":37.16,"text":"I told Mark at 12 noon it would be a good time if he could bring him in."},{"start":40.3,"end":44.57,"text":"This makes him a good man, a good type of man."},{"start":45.49,"end":48.09,"text":"Another thing, uh, Stan wants to report to me on his trip to Russia."},{"start":48.11,"end":50.53,"text":"I know, I've got that."},{"start":50.79,"end":52.77,"text":"And it's, uh... How's he doing?"},{"start":53.23,"end":53.57,"text":"Well..."},{"start":55.26,"end":56.76,"text":"I don't know if we want to catch him."},{"start":56.88,"end":59.4,"text":"Maybe we want to squeeze the Russians for the rest of the time."},{"start":59.44,"end":61.57,"text":"We're going to raise a quarter more."},{"start":61.59,"end":62.19,"text":"It's hard."},{"start":62.21,"end":62.61,"text":"But ask Henry."},{"start":63.01,"end":66.97,"text":"My view about it is to get the damn thing over with by doing it in Kansas City."},{"start":67.05,"end":68.39,"text":"And then let me talk to Cole."},{"start":68.45,"end":69.79,"text":"Well, that was our plan."},{"start":69.87,"end":72.3,"text":"He's tried to move around."},{"start":72.34,"end":74.46,"text":"He said he knows he's going to report to the cabinet."},{"start":74.56,"end":78.4,"text":"He understood that that was suggested, but he still feels he needs to report to the president."},{"start":79.71,"end":80.31,"text":"Okay."},{"start":80.41,"end":80.73,"text":"Okay."},{"start":126.56,"end":128.8,"text":"Did they finally work Schultz into that thing tonight?"},{"start":133.52,"end":137.05,"text":"I don't see a problem with Schultz."},{"start":137.07,"end":138.33,"text":"He was censored because he was included."},{"start":139.39,"end":142.47,"text":"John told me the way back, so I had to get to the room."},{"start":142.53,"end":143.23,"text":"Somebody's off."},{"start":143.25,"end":144.53,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":144.55,"end":145.25,"text":"I guess I need to go home."},{"start":145.27,"end":153.19,"text":"He's been there a great hundred times."},{"start":153.22,"end":154.68,"text":"Were you able to work that Schultz thing out?"},{"start":154.84,"end":155.82,"text":"The dinner poster helped him."},{"start":157.22,"end":159.5,"text":"How are you doing?"},{"start":159.52,"end":161.91,"text":"David's not coming."},{"start":163.04,"end":163.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":163.63,"end":164.11,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":164.15,"end":164.57,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":188.38,"end":188.98,"text":"Well, it's too bad."},{"start":189,"end":189.62,"text":"We're sorry."},{"start":189.68,"end":193.68,"text":"He should be included in something in the future."},{"start":193.72,"end":195.9,"text":"Now, look."},{"start":198.93,"end":199.54,"text":"What you doing?"},{"start":199.72,"end":200.25,"text":"What is it?"},{"start":200.37,"end":201.87,"text":"For the Brazilians?"},{"start":202.49,"end":204.13,"text":"You had it for that purpose."},{"start":204.75,"end":206.11,"text":"Now, the other thing is this."},{"start":206.17,"end":211.39,"text":"I don't think that if you haven't filed anything, I don't think they should be included tomorrow."},{"start":211.49,"end":212.95,"text":"You've got them tomorrow night also."},{"start":218.14,"end":220.6,"text":"Yeah, because we've been heavily loathing, you know, they've been loathing."},{"start":220.86,"end":222.16,"text":"I know, you know what I mean."},{"start":224.33,"end":226.65,"text":"This is... All right."},{"start":226.93,"end":227.93,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":228.47,"end":228.99,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":230.77,"end":231.19,"text":"I understand."},{"start":231.47,"end":233.63,"text":"That's the way it should be."},{"start":233.65,"end":234.79,"text":"That's the way it should be."},{"start":234.85,"end":238.16,"text":"I just want you to know, if you have a problem, I can pay you."},{"start":238.2,"end":238.52,"text":"All right."},{"start":239.02,"end":240.32,"text":"Okay."},{"start":241,"end":241.28,"text":"Fine."},{"start":251.11,"end":251.79,"text":"Why at all?"},{"start":251.81,"end":253.55,"text":"I guess that's whatever we worry about."},{"start":253.61,"end":263.97,"text":"Well, as you said, well, it's noticed when he's not there, but it doesn't make any talk about this."},{"start":264.93,"end":267.39,"text":"Now, about that, he's not going to go to these meetings."},{"start":267.41,"end":267.89,"text":"You understand?"},{"start":267.91,"end":269.99,"text":"He's not going to go to the meetings."},{"start":270.61,"end":273.05,"text":"See, that's the reason I didn't have him."},{"start":273.07,"end":275.45,"text":"And I didn't put him on because he's not going to the British."},{"start":275.56,"end":276.82,"text":"He's not going to the French."},{"start":276.86,"end":278.54,"text":"He's not going to the British."},{"start":278.64,"end":281.84,"text":"And that's not going to be a change on that, right?"},{"start":281.88,"end":285.34,"text":"Because we're not getting either one of these two state permits."},{"start":285.9,"end":286.08,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":286.1,"end":286.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":286.22,"end":286.26,"text":"OK."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with H. 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