Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 632 › Conversation 632-006

Nixon & Connally on Child Care Legislation and Welfare Reform

Wednesday, December 8, 1971 · 10:52 AM–10:55 AM ET · Oval Office · 4 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.Conversation632-006 on Tape 632 (tape position 01:22:57–01:30:42)StartWednesday, December 8, 1971 at 10:52 AMEndWednesday, December 8, 1971 at 10:55 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 632-006 ↗

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President Nixon and John B. Connally discuss the philosophical opposition to broad federal child care legislation, specifically concerns regarding the impact on maternal roles and welfare reform. The conversation also shifts to an assessment of political and economic conditions in Brazil, with Connally praising the leadership style of its government. The two men agree to defer further discussion on these policy matters until their next meeting to better align their positions.

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John, I think tomorrow is probably a better time.
I think the closer we can be to the period when we go off there to meet those, the branch will be better.
We should get our signals.
Yeah, go ahead.
It is a provision for a very, very broad child care.
center thing and we have of course in our hr1 provision for child care uh centers for working mothers in other words that people want to get the hell off of welfare but there's a child care center you provide for that this however just adopted as a general principle in child care services i have a i am basically a philosophical man i just don't believe i mean i think if you ever start
and having to stay and raise the kids and giving mother, whether they were or not, the option of that.
It's bad, you see.
Now, do you have any thoughts about it?
You, you, you?
Yeah, yeah.
It's a, it's a, it's, no, no, of course not, of course not.
I mean, that'd be, that'd be a little flack, but it seems to me that it's a, though it's a, it's a, it's a close vote in the House, and it's a, it's one of those things where
A lot of people, we don't, we're not being kind to children, but they're just going to be in the streets sometimes.
We're going to stop as far as the state is concerned.
And people want to get served by people.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, they are nice people.
He's a strong man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Actually, he has some of de Gaulle's attributes.
You know, he's quiet and can mix up many words.
But, boy, he's an activist kind of a fellow.
You know, some of the, some, basically many people object to Briscoe because he is an author and he runs a tight job.
But the reason they've had this fantastic rate of growth, a relatively low for any Latin American country in inflation,
is that he has run that kind of a shop.
The investments before he got into that country, they told me, don't you see that, what you hear?
Brazil is doing damn well.
And the other Latin American countries, those that are taking the so-called Democratic line of address, they're having a hell of a time because they can't guarantee that they're going to be able to get people to come down there.
So I take it as lying all the way.
That's right.
And they are the country.
There are 100 million of them.
They're going to make a great place.
And now they're on the way.
He's going to be in the election in about 75 or so.
I don't care.
Go out and leave.
That's right.
Okay.
See you tomorrow.
Fine.
This will give us bullshit to think a little about.
I just want to get your comments.

NARA Description

On December 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John B. Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:52 am to 10:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 632-006 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 632-6

Date: December 8, 1971
Time: 10:52 am - 10:55 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with John B. Connally.

[See Conversation No. 16-44]

Also recorded on December 8, 1971

  • 632-005 10:50 AM · 5 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 10:52 am.
  • 016-044 10:52 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and John B. Connally talked on the telephone from 10:52 am to 10:55 am.
  • 016-045 10:55 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 11:03 am.
  • 016-046 10:55 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 11:03 am.
  • 632-007 10:55 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 11:03 am.
  • 632-008 10:55 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:55 am and 11:03 am.
  • 016-047 11:03 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 11:03 am to 11:05 am.
  • 632-009 11:03 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:03 am to 11:05 am.

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Conversation 632-006, December 8, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/632-006 (accessed October 12, 2026).