{"conversationCode":"635-007","tapeNumber":635,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-635-007","startDateTime":"1971-12-10T06:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-10T15:51:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Dec-1971","startTime":"1:43 AM","endDate":"10-Dec-1971","endTime":"10:51 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On December 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 1:43 am to 10:51 am. 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(Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart\n                -The President’s opinion\n                -Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s schedule\n                -Competence of staff\n\nPage | 21\n\f               White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n\n\n\n                  -Uncommunicative with Tricia Nixon Cox and Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n            -Rose Mary Woods and Marjorie P. Acker's telephone calls\n                  -Julie Nixon Eisenhower and Tricia Nixon Cox\n            -Administration credit for Christmas\n            -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman’s talk with Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n            -Rose Mary Woods’s talk with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n            -Julie Nixon Eisenhower\n                  -Television appearance\n                         -Rose Mary Woods’s view\n                  -Organization of show\n\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n[Personal Returnable]\n[635-007-w003]\n[Duration: 1m 11s]\n\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n\n[The President talked with Haldeman at an unknown time between 10:43 am and 10:51 am]\n\n[Conversation No. 655-7A]\n\n     Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s Christmas special\n           -Talk with Rose Mary Woods\n           -Editorial control\n\n[End of telephone conversation]\n\n     -Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart\n          -David N. Parker\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nPage | 22\n\f               White House Tapes of the Nixon Administration, 1971-1973\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n\n\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 10:43 am.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with Henry A. Kissinger\n               -Kissinger's schedule\n                      -Location\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:51 am.\n\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/18/2019.\nSegment will remain closed.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[635-007-w002]\n[Duration: 5m 21s]\n\n\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n\nWoods left at 10:51 am.","filename":["635-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:46:21","tapeEnd":"01:58:50","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"635-006","nextCode":"635-008","transcript":[{"start":1.04,"end":17.79,"text":"But Connie, I think, is trying to negate it."},{"start":42.56,"end":45.92,"text":"It's too far down the pike anyway, and anyway, I think it'll be good."},{"start":46.12,"end":47.22,"text":"I think it'll be good."},{"start":47.9,"end":53.72,"text":"I don't know why that goddamn Connie has to get into these things, but she's, because she didn't think of it."},{"start":53.74,"end":59.47,"text":"See, it's, Julie's schedule's being planned by other people now, at Julie's request."},{"start":60.73,"end":65.31,"text":"And Connie's people are totally incapable of planning that schedule."},{"start":65.96,"end":73.78,"text":"But you don't find... During what happens on television, you asked me about when we checked, they haven't called even Trisha and Julie to tell me what's going on."},{"start":74.94,"end":78.62,"text":"That whole big fan she's got over there."},{"start":78.69,"end":79.75,"text":"It's just uncanny."},{"start":79.81,"end":80.28,"text":"They just..."},{"start":80.31,"end":80.83,"text":"They have not."},{"start":83.69,"end":85.81,"text":"We called, Marge and I called from the hospital."},{"start":86.77,"end":93.53,"text":"I talked to Julie and to... Trish, either one of them told me."},{"start":96.37,"end":112.18,"text":"sure do you want me to call to me and talk about it a little bit it's a way for us to get credit for the christmas thing that we've never gotten before you know part of it maybe that pat doesn't like to have julie"},{"start":117.95,"end":124.13,"text":"We've got to have everything that we can get."},{"start":124.19,"end":127.37,"text":"And everything we can get at this point."},{"start":127.43,"end":136.63,"text":"But I know Bob, see Bob is, Julie is talking about it, about Paul and I."},{"start":136.65,"end":139.91,"text":"So Bob is going to talk to him."},{"start":140.63,"end":142.03,"text":"You can slip in and see Bob."},{"start":143.98,"end":146.51,"text":"Doctor, you'll be glad to hear it."},{"start":146.57,"end":147.29,"text":"Back him up."},{"start":147.35,"end":149.81,"text":"You should send her to East Park, Julie, any way you can."},{"start":149.93,"end":151.57,"text":"But also, you're gonna talk to, uh, to, uh..."},{"start":152.61,"end":153.01,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":153.35,"end":156.77,"text":"I'm gonna have to get my hands up."},{"start":158.43,"end":161.58,"text":"Oh, I swear to God, it's hard for me to keep up with all this terror."},{"start":161.86,"end":167.22,"text":"Oh, it's terrible, isn't it?"},{"start":167.28,"end":167.9,"text":"Yeah, I'll see you."},{"start":168.06,"end":168.84,"text":"I'll talk to Bob."},{"start":168.88,"end":169.5,"text":"I'll see you."},{"start":211.83,"end":217.2,"text":"I read this show and I'm looking forward to the show."},{"start":217.24,"end":225.3,"text":"Yes, I think it's an excellent way to show the life after Christmas."},{"start":225.38,"end":229.03,"text":"To show the nice, easy, soft part of it."},{"start":229.07,"end":231.23,"text":"And she is so warm and everyone loves her."},{"start":231.25,"end":232.63,"text":"I think it would be just great."},{"start":233.95,"end":236.34,"text":"Yeah, and even just having Julie on in any circumstance."},{"start":240.6,"end":246.13,"text":"She raises the other knife or something, and I was hoping to cut her off."},{"start":246.17,"end":247.51,"text":"She said, I've got to get a hold of this."},{"start":247.53,"end":249.45,"text":"I don't think it's being organized well enough."},{"start":250.33,"end":251.45,"text":"We've got to run these shows."},{"start":251.47,"end":251.91,"text":"Well, you know."},{"start":324.91,"end":331.06,"text":"I'll ask Bob if he thinks it's... Well..."},{"start":331.12,"end":331.96,"text":"I'd be glad to."},{"start":331.98,"end":337.78,"text":"I think it would be great if people would love it."},{"start":339.7,"end":346.38,"text":"Say, Bob, I have Bill Rose here on the Julie thing, and if you need any backup on this, you know, she might get..."},{"start":346.44,"end":350.45,"text":"But if you need any backup on that, you let her know, wait a minute."},{"start":350.53,"end":350.77,"text":"You..."},{"start":352.09,"end":353.97,"text":"I feel strongly it should go forward."},{"start":356.96,"end":357.64,"text":"Yeah, fine."},{"start":358.56,"end":366.2,"text":"Well, just, we'll just have to tell Julie that we feel strongly and that would be very, very detrimental to our relations with TV."},{"start":367.29,"end":367.58,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":369.11,"end":370.67,"text":"Yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"start":372.37,"end":374.11,"text":"Yeah, right, right, right."},{"start":374.61,"end":375.79,"text":"Well, okay then."},{"start":376.05,"end":380.49,"text":"You tell Julie, just think it's a good idea."},{"start":380.53,"end":382.43,"text":"And we get some editorial control, I suppose."},{"start":382.87,"end":385.49,"text":"No, they're not."},{"start":390.45,"end":400.11,"text":"Of course, the thing about Connie's not there, he's jealous."},{"start":400.13,"end":404.94,"text":"Somebody, Parker or somebody over here is doing the other thing."},{"start":405.18,"end":406.36,"text":"You see, that's what the problem is."},{"start":406.9,"end":408.82,"text":"Did you go and see Henry before he was slugging on beans?"},{"start":409.42,"end":410.64,"text":"Whenever he's ready, does he hear?"},{"start":411.2,"end":414.22,"text":"He's not going to stop us."},{"start":414.26,"end":417.26,"text":"Well, he's supposed to clear some things up before 11 o'clock tomorrow."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discuss the logistical and public relations challenges surrounding the scheduling of television appearances for Julie Nixon Eisenhower. 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