{"conversationCode":"635-010","tapeNumber":635,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-635-010","startDateTime":"1971-12-10T17:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-10T17:01:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Dec-1971","startTime":"12:00 PM","endDate":"10-Dec-1971","endTime":"12:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:00 pm to 12:01 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 635-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 635-10\n\nDate: December 10, 1971\nTime: 12:00 pm - 12:01 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n                                            30\n\n                          NIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS STAFF\n\n                                    Tape Subject Log\n                                      (rev. 10/06)\n                                                                    Conv. No. 635-10 (cont.)\n\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Meeting with Nicholas P. Thimmesch\n          -Distinguished Service Medal Award presentation\n                -Gen. Leonard F. Chapman, Jr.\n                      -Maj. Gen. James D. Hughes\n                           -Briefing\n\nBull left at 12:01 pm.","filename":["635-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:08:07","tapeEnd":"03:08:54","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"635-009","nextCode":"635-011","transcript":[{"start":1.9,"end":2.86,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":2.88,"end":8.27,"text":"Now, do you think that we might be wanting to spend more than five minutes with Timmish?"},{"start":9.91,"end":10.01,"text":"Why?"},{"start":10.05,"end":11.19,"text":"Is that what I suggested?"},{"start":11.65,"end":14.69,"text":"Listen, we have a chat in this dinner service now, a presentation."},{"start":14.71,"end":22.66,"text":"I don't think we might want to spend Timmish until after work, so it's a little more of an excuse."},{"start":22.82,"end":24.04,"text":"Well, I'll do the chat now."},{"start":24.06,"end":27,"text":"I'm going to tell Timmish he can't spend more than five minutes."},{"start":27.08,"end":28.92,"text":"I can't promise that."},{"start":28.94,"end":29.04,"text":"See?"},{"start":30.94,"end":38.22,"text":"Yes, gentlemen, if you'd like to step back and just brief you on how this is going to work, sir."},{"start":38.32,"end":39.14,"text":"I think I have."},{"start":39.22,"end":39.92,"text":"That's all right."},{"start":40.05,"end":43.78,"text":"If not, you can come in."},{"start":43.82,"end":45.06,"text":"I'll take care of it."},{"start":45.08,"end":45.7,"text":"I'll be right back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met briefly to review the President's immediate schedule and manage logistical arrangements for upcoming appointments. They discussed the time allocation for a meeting with journalist Nicholas P. Thimmesch and the protocol for a Distinguished Service Medal presentation involving General Leonard F. Chapman, Jr. and Major General James D. Hughes. Nixon instructed Bull to strictly limit the duration of the Thimmesch interview to five minutes.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Nicholas P. Thimmesch","Distinguished Service Medal","Leonard F. Chapman, Jr.","Oval Office administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:29:59.819Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","nicholas-p-thimmesch","distinguished-service-medal","leonard-f-chapman-jr","oval-office-administration"],"audioDurationSec":47,"audioFiles":[{"file":"635-010.mp3","bytes":472114,"durationSec":46.79,"bitrate":80712,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.362Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/635-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/635-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/635/conversation-635-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}