{"conversationCode":"635-013","tapeNumber":635,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-635-013","startDateTime":"1971-12-10T17:15:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-10T17:19:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Dec-1971","startTime":"12:15 PM","endDate":"10-Dec-1971","endTime":"12:19 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On December 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:15 pm and 12:19 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 635-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 635-013\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\nDate: December 10, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:15 pm and 12:19 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Henry A. Kissinger\n               -Timing\n               -Location\n          -Alexander M. Haig, Jr.\n          -David Packard\n               -Resignation letter\n\nButterfield left at an unknown time before 12:19 pm.","filename":["635-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:23:51","tapeEnd":"03:24:39","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"635-012","nextCode":"635-014","transcript":[{"start":8.99,"end":10.07,"text":"Five minutes to watch."},{"start":10.21,"end":12.81,"text":"I'm supposed to be getting busy."},{"start":12.83,"end":20.91,"text":"Five o'clock, so... Now, hey, and... Just three minutes."},{"start":21.21,"end":22.86,"text":"He won't bring anything."},{"start":23.28,"end":26.46,"text":"He wants to see you."},{"start":26.52,"end":26.9,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":28.66,"end":31.56,"text":"Hold on, hold on, hold on."},{"start":35.02,"end":36.02,"text":"Yeah, oh, sure."},{"start":36.09,"end":36.89,"text":"Hold on, hold on."},{"start":42.03,"end":42.58,"text":"I just can't stand by now."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met to coordinate the President's immediate daily schedule and upcoming appointments. They discussed the logistics regarding a meeting with Henry Kissinger, as well as engagements with Alexander M. Haig, Jr. and David Packard. The conversation centered on managing the timing and professional flow of these cabinet-level interactions, including the status of Packard's resignation.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Henry Kissinger","David Packard","Alexander M. Haig, Jr.","White House administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:30:17.914Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","henry-kissinger","david-packard","alexander-m-haig-jr","white-house-administration"],"audioDurationSec":47,"audioFiles":[{"file":"635-013.mp3","bytes":478465,"durationSec":47.41,"bitrate":80731,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.362Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:10.986Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/635-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/635-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/635/conversation-635-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}