{"conversationCode":"636-005","tapeNumber":636,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-636-005","startDateTime":"1971-12-10T21:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-10T21:07:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Dec-1971","startTime":"4:05 PM","endDate":"10-Dec-1971","endTime":"4:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 10, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:05 pm and 4:07 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 636-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 636-5\n\nDate: December 10, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 4:05 pm and 4:07 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Bill signing ceremony\n           -Revenue Act of 1971\n                 -Pens\n                       -John B. Connally\n                       -Wilbur D. Mills\n                       -Arthur F. Burns\n                       -Russell B. Long\n                            -Location\n                       -Harry S. Dent\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:07 pm.","filename":["636-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:28:54","tapeEnd":"00:30:00","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"636-004","nextCode":"636-006","transcript":[{"start":0.13,"end":3.41,"text":"All of a sudden, you're already listening to this."},{"start":3.89,"end":8.93,"text":"There's just one pin sound for the voices."},{"start":8.95,"end":9.93,"text":"Yeah, but wait a minute."},{"start":11.01,"end":12.71,"text":"But I want to, give me three or four."},{"start":12.73,"end":14.11,"text":"I'll get one of the comments."},{"start":14.13,"end":15.93,"text":"I'll use five minutes on this."},{"start":16.05,"end":18.73,"text":"And I'll get one of the comments."},{"start":18.75,"end":22.12,"text":"I want to do one of the Bill's and Burns."},{"start":22.14,"end":23.48,"text":"I'll give it to Burns."},{"start":23.56,"end":24.2,"text":"What do you give him?"},{"start":25.02,"end":25.73,"text":"Is Russell Wall here?"},{"start":26.05,"end":26.33,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":26.37,"end":26.89,"text":"He'll leave in a minute."},{"start":27.01,"end":27.95,"text":"Just keep it running."},{"start":27.97,"end":29.17,"text":"And, uh, Chris?"},{"start":29.61,"end":30.52,"text":"And Bennett is not here."},{"start":31.26,"end":31.54,"text":"All right."},{"start":31.6,"end":33.26,"text":"Bennett is not here."},{"start":33.3,"end":33.44,"text":"Scott?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to coordinate the logistics for the upcoming signing ceremony of the Revenue Act of 1971. They specifically discussed the distribution of signing pens to key political figures, including John B. Connally, Wilbur D. Mills, Arthur F. Burns, and Russell B. Long. The President finalized plans for the presentation of these pens to ensure proper recognition of the individuals involved in the legislation's passage.","topics":["Revenue Act of 1971","Bill signing ceremony","White House logistics","Political protocol","Arthur F. Burns","John B. Connally"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:31:15.111Z"},"topicSlugs":["revenue-act-of-1971","bill-signing-ceremony","white-house-logistics","political-protocol","arthur-f-burns","john-b-connally"],"audioDurationSec":43,"audioFiles":[{"file":"636-005.mp3","bytes":1712379,"durationSec":42.66,"bitrate":321128,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.362Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/636-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/636-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/636/conversation-636-005","catalogNaId":417182999,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417182999","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}