{"conversationCode":"638-010","tapeNumber":638,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-638-010","startDateTime":"1971-12-15T17:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-15T17:06:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Dec-1971","startTime":"12:02 PM","endDate":"15-Dec-1971","endTime":"12:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 15, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:02 pm and 12:06 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 638-010 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 638-010\n\nDate: December 15, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 12:02 pm and 12:06 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Asks that Paul A. Volcker come to the Oval Office\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:06 pm.","filename":["638-010.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:15:59","tapeEnd":"03:16:20","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"638-009","nextCode":"638-011","transcript":[{"start":0.39,"end":1.48,"text":"Please, cast a vote."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to coordinate an urgent administrative task. The primary purpose of the meeting was to facilitate a direct communication channel with the Treasury Department. Nixon directed Bull to summon Under Secretary of the Treasury Paul A. Volcker to the Oval Office for an immediate consultation.","topics":["Paul A. Volcker","Stephen B. Bull","Treasury Department","White House operations","administrative coordination"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:34:42.766Z"},"topicSlugs":["paul-a-volcker","stephen-b-bull","treasury-department","white-house-operations","administrative-coordination"],"audioDurationSec":7,"audioFiles":[{"file":"638-010.mp3","bytes":287134,"durationSec":7.05,"bitrate":326032,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.662Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:11.363Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/638-010.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/638-010","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/638/conversation-638-010","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}