Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 640-009
Date: Wednesday, December 22, 1971 at 12:45 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rossi, Anthony T. ("Tony"); Mongelli, Acheille
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/640-009

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[0:02] Mr. Thurston, Mr. Frederick, all my folks here.
[0:05] How are you?
[0:05] How are you?
[0:06] Nice to see you.
[0:08] Nice to see you.
[0:11] I have a tight schedule.
[0:13] Do you want the full-weights or light-weights?
[0:19] Light-weights.
[0:20] Light-weights, basically.
[0:22] By full-weights, I suppose that's what I mean.
[0:26] Yes.
[0:26] We need things that are not too heavy.
[0:29] I'm sorry that I need them for...
[0:39] I have some fall things here, too.
[0:43] I have some this.
[1:02] They're kind of light in shape.
[1:04] Well, yes, they're light in shape.
[1:13] These are light weight.
[1:19] These are spring and summer.
[1:21] These are full, but they're light weight batteries.
[1:24] And these are this.
[1:28] These are spring and summer.
[1:30] Yes.
[1:32] These may not match.
[1:33] Yes, yes.
[1:36] I see.
[1:40] You will get used for a wedge lighter.
[1:43] I would say, I'm talking now about the first march.
[1:53] Well, you know, if we run into one of the problems here, by that time I think I'll be able to take some of it because it's such a problem.
[1:59] I mean, woven goods because of the knit.
[2:02] It's taken over most of the fabrics.
[2:05] Is that right?
[2:05] Yeah.
[2:06] But I think the wovens are beginning to come back because they're finding they're having problems with knits.
[2:17] You prefer to row with woven?
[2:19] Yes, I do, yes.
[2:24] Because they have a certain amount of .
[2:32] Yeah.
[2:32] Oh, I don't know.
[2:33] Let's see what we're going to do.
[2:44] These are next here.
[2:44] Yeah.
[2:45] This is a .
[2:47] No.
[2:49] There's a lightweight net.
[2:58] How heavy is it?
[2:59] This is lighter, right?
[3:00] Yes.
[3:02] How would that be?
[3:04] This is a glamor.
[3:07] Oh, yes, that's very good.
[3:10] I don't have very many of those.
[3:16] Oh, let's see here.
[3:19] These are, do you like these better?
[3:21] Yes, yes, yes.
[3:23] That's a very good advantage now.
[3:42] And these are all light years.
[3:45] I had these sent over from New York.
[3:49] We searched the market, and this is what they came up with.
[3:52] I think that some of these, some of these,
[4:26] Is that too mighty?
[4:29] I'll take that seat.
[4:31] That's well done, that's right.
[4:33] Yeah, that would be as good as possible.
[5:02] Let me take a look.
[5:03] I can't.
[5:04] No, no.
[5:05] Why are you scared?
[5:06] These are good lights.
[5:07] Yeah, I know.
[6:30] Oh, you've got a great paper, don't you?
[6:37] Yeah.
[6:39] This is like, will you?
[6:40] Yeah.
[6:41] I love that.
[6:42] Do you like that?
[6:43] Yeah, I think this is going to be very nice.
[6:47] This is going to be very nice.
[6:49] That would be nice.
[6:52] I want to put some light on this.
[6:54] Yeah, yeah.
[6:57] We're going to have to warn the Swedes about this.
[7:26] I think the one you made is a little heavier in weight.
[7:31] This is the lighter weight?
[7:34] Yeah, this is the lighter weight.
[7:36] This is not small.
[7:38] Yeah.
[7:38] This is heavy.
[7:39] These are a little heavy.
[7:41] These are heavier.
[7:43] I don't want anything heavy.
[7:45] Now, I've got so many heavy things.
[7:47] At least, my last batch was heavy.
[7:49] Yes, they were.
[7:50] A little too much for...
[7:52] They're fine for China, where it'd be cold, but not good for China.
[7:58] China would be cold.
[8:01] When I got the clothes you made before for me, they're perfectly all right.
[8:07] But then when I go to Moscow, it will be very hot.
[8:10] That's in May.
[8:12] And the campaign period is pretty warm, I think.
[8:17] It's very cold.
[8:19] We're waiting on the opportunity to show you something.
[8:22] Yeah, you got something.
[8:23] You know, that's in the campaign.
[8:25] It's 13.
[8:30] Two there.
[8:31] I hope you don't think.
[8:35] Oh, I'm presumptuous, but when I was in New York, one of the Nittany Mill representatives came in, and he showed me a book.
[8:44] It's what?
[8:45] When I saw this, it was much better than any other president.
[8:49] And you can probably make that stuff.
[8:52] make merry with this with your friends and your party and come time for, you know, your campaign.
[8:58] What do you think?
[9:00] Well, I think maybe even more about some of the controversial members of your party.
[9:05] That's a hit, really.
[9:13] Now that's a double hit.
[9:14] All right.
[9:19] That's a good one.
[9:20] I'll wear it sometime for a party.
[9:22] Isn't that nice?
[9:23] Isn't that nice?
[9:25] Isn't that great?
[9:27] Isn't that perfect?
[9:29] Yeah.
[9:30] Well, that's a very tall one.
[9:38] Send that over to my truck.
[9:47] Now, let's see here now.
[9:49] Let's start getting down to making a step decision.
[9:52] What do you think?
[9:53] Now, we take those to resolution here and there.
[9:56] I know you don't like those.
[9:57] Yes, very much.
[9:59] Now, for the doctor.
[10:00] Yes, sir.
[10:00] These are nice.
[10:01] These are going to be very useful.
[10:05] This is the one that you had before.
[10:08] This is heavy.
[10:09] No, no, I just showed you that.
[10:12] I have a couple other heavies here, but I don't think I'm going to show them to you.
[10:22] I don't know if you need them or not.
[10:27] That's not a very heavy Worcester.
[10:29] That's a full wing, but it's on the light side.
[10:32] I think this is nice, though.
[10:34] I think we ought to have it.
[10:35] I think we could use that.
[10:37] Yeah, I think I can use it.
[10:38] But you don't have anything like this.
[10:40] I've got a thing in there.
[10:40] That isn't as heavy as this.
[10:42] No, no.
[10:43] All right.
[10:44] Okay.
[10:45] Now let's go.
[10:46] Now we've got three of this.
[10:47] Right, right.
[10:49] Now we need some light.
[10:51] Now let's take this.
[10:52] You all right?
[10:54] Well, thank you.
[10:56] In terms of color, I like that.
[10:57] I think I can go like this.
[11:01] And that one, I think that's, this is very, this is a little bit larger, but I think it's a little, this would be a nice white.
[11:15] I mean, in terms of color, it's not very, let's see, we have this one, wait a minute.
[11:22] Let's see.
[11:27] What was the one you were showing in the car where you were going to go?
[11:59] What do you think?
[11:59] This is rather nice, but, uh, or maybe it doesn't.
[12:07] I really like it.
[12:07] How about that?
[12:09] Do you like that?
[12:10] Well, that's it.
[12:11] You don't like that?
[12:12] I think it's heavy.
[12:13] Or, I mean, I'm afraid that, uh, it will not hold hard enough.
[12:16] That's all.
[12:16] That's all right.
[12:18] Let me check.
[12:19] These are fine.
[12:20] Those little birds are not supposed to be like this.
[12:24] This one is just a little bit too wide.
[12:26] You have three to pick from.
[12:28] There's a little wider window pane.
[12:33] But it's very significant.
[12:35] Yes, no, I think this might be a little too big.
[12:38] I think maybe this one.
[12:43] Ah, this is, this is the learning.
[12:45] Yeah, okay, but it's a smaller one.
[12:47] Look at you, I can see it.
[12:48] Ah, see, this one, I can see it.
[12:50] That little bird, yeah.
[12:51] Okay, there we go.
[12:52] We've got all these, yeah?
[12:53] Yeah.
[12:53] All right.
[12:54] We decided not to go over there.
[12:59] Not today.
[12:59] All right.
[13:00] But you know, in this before, it used to look like, well, except I think it's open to a little bit much.
[13:11] Are you straight?
[13:12] I have a grave...
[13:14] I have a grave Worcester here you might like.
[13:18] We've got three already prepared.
[13:21] This is a very fine cloth.
[13:28] Yeah, that is nice.
[13:30] That's beautiful.
[13:31] What is this?
[13:31] This is a whole year-round weight, but it's a light weight.
[13:34] Yes, this is about this weight, perhaps.
[13:37] A little lighter.
[13:37] Maybe a little lighter than this.
[13:40] Yeah, but not too heavy.
[13:43] No.
[13:44] You don't think this is too heavy for a... Well, probably for the topics for a warm climate.
[13:51] Now, let's see, we've got three.
[13:54] Four there?
[13:55] Yes, there are four there.
[14:15] Two of these are lightweight.
[14:18] No, they're like medium weight.
[14:20] And one is a lightweight.
[14:22] One is a lightweight.
[14:23] I think those are all.
[14:26] Oh, here it is.
[14:27] Yeah.
[14:29] Okay.
[14:29] How many have you got there?
[14:32] Four.
[14:33] But you need these.
[14:34] These are the ones that count for the light ones.
[14:37] Those are lightweight.
[14:39] Yeah.
[14:40] Now, what do you, what do you say to these?
[14:42] Do you like all these?
[14:44] Do you like them nice?
[14:47] You could much as do without this.
[14:51] Well, what?
[14:51] With this.
[14:52] Yeah.
[14:53] The difficulty is that I need, for light, I need a couple of dark things.
[14:59] I've got a lot of dark stuff over there already.
[15:02] And see, some of those are dark.
[15:04] Yeah.
[15:04] Yeah.
[15:05] But I think these are both dark.
[15:11] This one?
[15:11] This one.
[15:13] I think that's it.
[15:15] How do you like that?
[15:17] You've got a nice, good variation.
[15:19] You've got a fine.
[15:24] I wonder...
[15:25] I think it's a good variation.
[15:30] It's a good variation.
[15:31] It's a good variation.
[15:32] It's a good variation.
[15:33] It's a good variation.
[15:34] It's a good variation.
[15:36] It's a good variation.
[15:37] It's a good variation.
[15:40] Well, I'll tell you, I'm sure you're going to like that.
[15:42] They are all pretty useful.
[15:44] Those last two you made were just beautiful.
[15:47] What is this?
[15:48] That's a nice, lightweight hat.
[15:50] Beautiful, beautiful thing.
[15:52] When they go down south, they might blow a little bit.
[15:57] I haven't blown.
[16:00] This is...
[16:05] Do you have anything else in the Sport Jacket?
[16:07] Yeah.
[16:08] I'll take one more.
[16:09] I always want to get two Sport Jackets.
[16:11] Do you want a knit?
[16:14] Well, knits are good for Sport Jackets, aren't they?
[16:17] Yes.
[16:19] They're pretty heavy.
[16:20] No.
[16:21] They feel heavy at the bottom, but when you get them on, they're not.
[16:24] Does that coat feel heavy on you?
[16:29] I think it's a sport jacket.
[16:31] That's about the same weight.
[16:33] This one?
[16:34] Or what else would you suggest?
[16:36] I wish that would be number one.
[16:41] I like that.
[16:41] Well, this is it.
[16:42] Oh, we're going to take this away.
[16:44] Right.
[16:44] This is the connection, all right?
[16:46] I was just thinking one more and a sport jacket signed.
[16:50] Do you have any other?
[16:52] Do I have a choice?
[16:53] Do you have any other?
[16:54] Is that sport?
[16:55] Yes.
[16:55] There it is.
[16:56] From this, he doesn't bother you with that.
[16:58] You want to wear it?
[16:59] Let him do it.
[17:06] All right.
[17:11] Here's a British fabric.
[17:12] You don't have too many colors of all the years, do you?
[17:35] It's like a nice town here.
[17:39] No, I'm set there.
[17:40] I've got to figure it out.
[17:41] I need something a little more on the light side, personally.
[17:48] How are you?
[17:48] We've got all this fun stuff around here.
[17:50] So, I think you'll care about this for a check today.
[17:52] Why?
[17:52] Something in the blue room.
[18:01] I'm afraid that's a little too...
[18:05] This one is very good.
[18:06] Oh, that's nice.
[18:18] Now, could you, could we have a couple slats to coat those?
[18:23] We need a slat.
[18:25] I like those slats the way you make them.
[18:29] Mainly the slats, be sure that they are not sketchy, you know.
[18:32] Oh, yes.
[18:33] Sort of smooth, soft kind of, uh, not too heavy.
[18:38] Oh, but you know how much paper slats you have.
[18:43] Oh, yes, the massive coats.
[18:46] Oh, here they are.
[18:47] Now, those are beautiful.
[18:52] Now, that's a very clear picture of this.
[18:56] But we could, uh, we could match it in, or we could point it against.
[18:59] Do you want to watch the news?
[19:01] Do you want to play it with me?
[19:07] I like the lighter weight drinks.
[19:09] We can then make a couple of light weight slaps.
[19:13] It will go great.
[19:14] All right.
[19:15] Now it's just written, right?
[19:18] Just written.
[19:19] Just written.
[19:20] These are all here.
[19:25] Oh, this is wonderful.
[19:27] Here's the gun.
[19:29] It's all out.
[19:30] As I say, I like this.
[19:33] Everything could happen, but the first of March or something like that.
[19:36] What will happen, wait until then.
[19:43] Right.
[19:43] Did you know what it was there?
[19:47] No, it was a car.
[19:48] Oh, it was a car.
[19:49] Did you know what it was?
[19:55] Did you know what it was?
[19:57] Did we pay this?
[20:02] Yes, yes.
[20:03] This is the last floor.
[20:09] This is the last floor.
[20:13] This is not the stretch.
[20:16] This is the right entrance.
[20:18] Now we're taking that first floor.
[20:23] We're taking that first floor.
[20:27] We're taking that first floor.
[20:30] Well, I, as a matter of fact, this will be actually the last time I'm going to get anything to the Polo Center, too, this time.
[20:40] I'm sure it will be.
[20:41] So I'm trying not to make it easy for the fall, as well as the summer.
[20:45] Oh, good.
[20:45] Then you should have enough.
[20:47] Oh, Bob, yes, I have enough.
[20:47] Oh, I did take a lot of other good stuff.
[20:49] I didn't get too much.
[20:51] I think that my waste, the last group,
[20:56] You could let out about a quarter inch.
[20:58] It's a little bit too tight.
[21:00] Really?
[21:01] It's tense, but I like it.
[21:03] Just a little loose.
[21:04] I see.
[21:05] So, I mean, why don't you look at the coat?
[21:08] Yes, it's one of the little ones.
[21:09] So, you see how it fits.
[21:12] See what you did.
[21:30] Yeah, well, it has the right weapons.
[21:32] I know that better than you.
[21:36] Why don't you try the waist?
[21:39] And as I say, linky, there's a little...
[21:45] So it makes it maybe half-inch more of a waist.
[21:49] And that's particularly in slacks.
[21:52] Okay.
[21:53] 36 1⁄2.
[21:53] 36 1⁄2.
[21:53] Well, compared to the 37 or 36 1⁄2 or...
[22:00] Not too loose, though.
[22:02] 36.34.
[22:02] So let's compromise, and then we'll check with our records.
[22:06] Right.
[22:08] Whatever you did previously, we had a quarter of an inch.
[22:12] The seat's all right.
[22:14] Oh, the seat's fine.
[22:16] We finally got the length.
[22:18] Yeah, we know the length is just right.
[22:21] Just right.
[22:23] Straight.
[22:24] See, my weight varies between three and four pounds, and I'm just a little bit better than just a little too tight.
[22:33] I think maybe next year you might lose a big balance, but I know the way you campaign.
[22:39] 36.
[22:39] You don't stop.
[22:40] 36.
[22:40] Yeah, that's right.
[22:42] 36 to 34.
[22:45] I'm sorry, but I hear wonderful comments.
[22:47] I'm sorry you can't hear my own.
[22:48] I've got people working for you already.
[22:52] Would you mind signing two for me?
[22:57] This is not mine.
[22:58] This is one of our men's.
[23:00] I said, I don't know if that's the proper word for it.
[23:04] And I think you may know this person.
[23:08] Gloria Schumann, I think her name is.
[23:10] She may be an alteration.
[23:13] Oh, yes.
[23:14] I get it.
[23:15] Oh.
[23:16] Wait a minute.
[23:18] It says to God.
[23:19] I think that was to God and Hades.
[23:22] Should I say to Gloria?
[23:23] No, to God and Hades, I guess.
[23:26] To God and Hades.
[23:27] Yeah, it was made by God and Hades.
[23:30] Should I say to God and Hades?
[23:33] Yes.
[23:33] I would appreciate that.
[23:41] Yeah, it is.
[23:42] And also,
[24:15] He's one of the friends.
[24:17] He's one of the boys that works downstairs.
[24:20] He always takes care of getting everything ready to go, I suppose, as well.
[24:25] Sure.
[24:26] Thank you.
[24:26] My God.
[24:27] Five dollars.
[24:27] He is.
[24:30] Thank you.
[24:46] You do get a contact for your voice before.
[24:54] Right.
[24:54] Right.
[24:56] Right.
[25:33] I'm wondering if they have enough clothing.
[25:36] Oh, God, yes.
[25:37] That's because he's the one who looked at that.
[25:48] I think it's all right.
[25:50] Yeah.
[25:51] Oh, yeah.
[25:53] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[26:14] Okay.
[26:24] Great collection.
[26:26] Okay, if you find that you don't, I have a pretty good...
[26:44] I'll leave these here because it's your selection.
[26:47] Did you come on the train?
[26:52] Yes.
[26:53] That's the best way I guess you could go, don't you?
[27:02] Yes.
[27:02] How'd you get to the airport?
[27:05] I did one time because they had an accident on the rails and came by the plane.
[27:18] Holds a lot of stuff.
[27:21] Yeah, I'll get him on the other side.
[27:30] I'll put him inside.
[27:35] It's amazing how this little thing can carry so much stuff.
[27:44] Amazing.
[27:44] That's a very nice bag.
[27:46] It is.
[27:46] It's flexible.
[27:47] I like that better.
[27:47] Oh, it's wonderful.
[27:48] Yeah, that's a beautiful bag.
[27:50] I think you can go out traveling.
[27:53] Have you had it for a long time?
[27:54] Yes, I guess about four.
[27:55] It must be a fine leather.
[27:58] I think it's more fine.
[28:00] Well, it is.
[28:01] Whatever it is, it's better than leather.
[28:02] Yes, it is.
[28:03] It's flexible.
[28:04] And it takes a beating also.
[28:06] Really?
[28:06] Is there some stuff in there?
[28:08] I'm leaving that with you now.
[28:10] Oh, yeah.
[28:11] I thought I'd know.
[28:15] Oh, that's 14.
[28:16] Thank you very much.
[28:23] Thank you.
[28:23] Thank you.
[28:25] Thank you.
[28:26] Thank you.