{"conversationCode":"641-003","tapeNumber":641,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-641-003","startDateTime":"1971-12-23T16:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-23T16:32:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Dec-1971","startTime":"11:25 AM","endDate":"23-Dec-1971","endTime":"11:32 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On December 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:25 am and 11:32 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 641-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 641-3\n\fDate: December 23, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:25 am and 11:32 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Instructions for Peter M. Flanigan\n           -Meeting with Archbishop Luigi Raimondi\n                -Timing\n                       -Bill signing\n                -Press\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:32 am.","filename":["641-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:15:21","tapeEnd":"00:17:26","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"641-002","nextCode":"641-004","transcript":[{"start":1.41,"end":5.9,"text":"I don't want to have a problem."},{"start":6.24,"end":12.88,"text":"I'll get to the question in a second."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen B. Bull to coordinate the scheduling of an upcoming meeting with Archbishop Luigi Raimondi. The discussion focused on aligning the Archbishop’s visit with a formal bill signing ceremony to ensure optimal press coverage. Nixon emphasized the need for precise timing to avoid logistical complications or negative optics.","topics":["Archbishop Luigi Raimondi","White House scheduling","Press relations","Bill signing","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:39:31.549Z"},"topicSlugs":["archbishop-luigi-raimondi","white-house-scheduling","press-relations","bill-signing","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"641-003.mp3","bytes":184552,"durationSec":18.03,"bitrate":81900,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.663Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:11.902Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/641-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/641-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/641/conversation-641-003","catalogNaId":417183171,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417183171","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}