{"conversationCode":"641-004","tapeNumber":641,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-641-004","startDateTime":"1971-12-23T16:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-12-23T16:37:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Dec-1971","startTime":"11:32 AM","endDate":"23-Dec-1971","endTime":"11:37 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Raimondi, Luigi; Flanigan, Peter M.; White House photographer;","description":"On December 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Luigi Raimondi, Peter M. Flanigan, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:32 am to 11:37 am. 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Flanigan; the White House photographer\nand members of the press were present at the beginning of the meeting.\n\n     Opening remarks by Raimondi\n\n     Message for peace from Pope Paul VI\n\n     Peace in the world\n\n     [Photograph session]\n\n     [General conversation]\n\n     Peace\n\n     Holiday wishes\n\nRaimondi and Flanigan left at 11:37 am.","filename":["641-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:17:26","tapeEnd":"00:23:20","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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Flanigan to receive a personal message of peace from Pope Paul VI. The brief session included a photo opportunity and a general exchange regarding global peace efforts and holiday well-wishes. Nixon acknowledged the Vatican's diplomatic mission, reflecting on the persistent challenges of achieving world peace.","topics":["Pope Paul VI","Diplomacy","World Peace","Vatican","Luigi Raimondi"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:39:36.771Z"},"topicSlugs":["pope-paul-vi","diplomacy","world-peace","vatican","luigi-raimondi"],"audioDurationSec":302,"audioFiles":[{"file":"641-004.mp3","bytes":3027853,"durationSec":302.36,"bitrate":80112,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/641-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/641-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/641/conversation-641-004","catalogNaId":417183173,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417183173","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}