{"conversationCode":"642-021","tapeNumber":642,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-642-021","startDateTime":"1972-01-03T15:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-03T16:00:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Jan-1972","startTime":"10:56 AM","endDate":"3-Jan-1972","endTime":"11:00 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.; Sanchez, Manolo; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, Manolo Sanchez, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:56 am and 11:00 am. 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(“Cap”) Weinberger\n          -Shultz, MacGregor, Weinberger\n\nManolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 10:56 am.\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:00 am.\n\n     Misplaced papers\n          -Search\n\nAn unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:56 am.\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 11:00 am\n\n          -Notes\n          -Possible location\n               -Wastebasket\n               -Letter\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Shultz\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:00 am.","filename":["642a.mp3","642b.mp3","642c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:00:50","tapeEnd":"04:02:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B.","Sanchez, Manolo","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"642-020","nextCode":"642-022","tapeTranscriptFile":"642a.mp3,642b.mp3,642c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":14451.62,"end":14455.75,"text":"Thank you very much."},{"start":14455.77,"end":14462.74,"text":"Jerry, good to see you again."},{"start":14463.12,"end":14464.42,"text":"Happy New Year."},{"start":14464.46,"end":14468.94,"text":"But you want to go to the party like everybody else does?"},{"start":14473.11,"end":14476.13,"text":"Oh, I think I've got enough on my hands."},{"start":14476.15,"end":14477.51,"text":"You don't want to go, right?"},{"start":14477.65,"end":14479.15,"text":"The first man is not going."},{"start":14479.19,"end":14480.25,"text":"The first man."},{"start":14480.27,"end":14481.63,"text":"I mean, every place is a match."},{"start":14481.65,"end":14481.77,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14482.17,"end":14484.74,"text":"Yeah, I had to see the whole CDS through here."},{"start":14484.76,"end":14487.16,"text":"That's the whole match that's going to be going."},{"start":14487.94,"end":14488.48,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":14488.5,"end":14490.08,"text":"That came out very well."},{"start":14490.86,"end":14492.06,"text":"That program looked up very well."},{"start":14492.1,"end":14492.7,"text":"That's good."},{"start":14492.73,"end":14493.31,"text":"Oh, it's good."},{"start":14493.36,"end":14494.55,"text":"Good coverage this morning."},{"start":14494.57,"end":14494.99,"text":"Good coverage."},{"start":14498.22,"end":14501.33,"text":"I thought it was very good."},{"start":14501.58,"end":14514.16,"text":"Somebody was saying, one of my friends says, he thought that the audience, I was sitting there, when he went out and I read a blank question, what is the situation on this?"},{"start":14520.57,"end":14522.93,"text":"Did you delay the end of the war?"},{"start":14523.87,"end":14526.03,"text":"Are you going to time the Chinese visit?"},{"start":14526.23,"end":14528.23,"text":"Are you going to time the Soviet visit?"},{"start":14528.25,"end":14531.65,"text":"Are you going to time your economic thing just for the election year?"},{"start":14532.69,"end":14534.77,"text":"I thought that was pretty god damn cheap."},{"start":14534.93,"end":14537.95,"text":"Now that's just too insulting a question to answer."},{"start":14538.64,"end":14547.66,"text":"But I was, I think the fact that you made a school of papers all come in this morning is a little, did you have a, you were relaxed, cool, had a good will."},{"start":14547.68,"end":14553.97,"text":"I think it's a little, I had a little dig there where I said, well, you know, everybody's going to say that the president does something."},{"start":14554.05,"end":14559,"text":"I said, of course, there was some of my supporters who thought that the bombing was coming a few days before the election."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":14451.625,"end":14559,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Stephen Bull and other staff members to review his upcoming daily schedule and address the urgent search for a set of misplaced papers. During the discussion, the President also reflected on recent media coverage, expressing frustration over cynical press questions regarding the political timing of his upcoming diplomatic visits to China and the Soviet Union. He noted that despite the hostile lines of inquiry, he maintained a composed and professional demeanor during his public appearances.","topics":["Presidential Schedule","Media Relations","Diplomatic Relations","Administrative Procedures","1972 Election"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:42:10.270Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","media-relations","diplomatic-relations","administrative-procedures","1972-election"],"audioDurationSec":111,"audioFiles":[{"file":"642a.mp3","bytes":175699590,"durationSec":7320.75,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"642b.mp3","bytes":176747205,"durationSec":7364.4,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"642c.mp3","bytes":155221889,"durationSec":6467.51,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.662Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/642a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/642b.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/642c.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/642-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/642/conversation-642-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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