Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 642-030 Date: Monday, January 3, 1972 at 12:07 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hoffman, Clarence C.; Hoffman, Clarence C. (Mrs.); Colson, Charles W.; McGill, John P.; [Unknown person(s)]; White House photographer Recording device: Oval Office Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/642-030 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [5:06:22] You're laying in the water now. [5:06:23] That'd be nice. [5:06:23] So we have a startling shift in that interview, so it's... [5:06:29] He asked you that question about the differences between black and white, and you could see the way he asked it that he thought he had really nailed you. [5:06:37] And that one, you know, he just hit right out of the ballpark. [5:06:42] He just sort of left it. [5:06:43] It's a rather stupid question. [5:06:48] It was, you know, he had this line. [5:06:49] Why don't you begin with that? [5:06:51] I'll put barrels in one of the openings. [5:06:56] Frequently, they give you a quote that wasn't ever made before and ask you to comment on it. [5:06:59] That's very, very dirty business. [5:07:00] Well, that's how it is. [5:07:01] In some cases, where you see what I did, blacks and whites, which probably was part of the interview where I was talking about, they grow up in different schools and different neighborhoods and so on and so on. [5:07:16] They're different. [5:07:25] and everybody's the same. [5:07:25] And everybody's the same. [5:07:26] I mean, whites are not the same. [5:07:27] You know, what is that ad on television, you know, the literature? [5:07:29] There's this boy that was speaking at the back of the lab, where they show the pool there, and the golf player, and all the rest. [5:07:50] The rich are very different from the rest of us. [5:08:20] I don't know if you can see George Allen, but he's George Allen. [5:08:22] I don't know if this is not me or it's the bad George. [5:08:25] You know, the one with the smarts, the one with the smarts. [5:08:28] And now the, there's several, one of them is in the back on the street, one of them is on the right side. [5:08:37] The other one is George Allen. [5:08:55] He was the fellow that, uh, prisoned Eisenhardt in July, playing bridge with him. [5:09:05] He was a criminal. [5:09:10] He was a criminal. [5:09:14] He was a criminal. [5:09:18] He was a criminal. [5:09:19] He was a criminal. [5:09:22] He was out playing golf with the person in the car, though, just before the arm attack. [5:09:26] Yeah. [5:09:27] He doesn't play at all. [5:09:28] He's too down. [5:09:28] Too back. [5:09:31] Sorry. [5:09:37] Oh, shoot. [5:10:04] That's a lot of figures. [5:10:06] I see you've got the best driver of the year. [5:11:19] That's a great record. [5:11:19] That's a great record. [5:11:43] Have you ever worked on them? [5:11:44] Yes. [5:11:44] Have you ever worked on them? [5:11:45] Yeah, we have done a lot. [5:11:46] We look out for your problems, and we congratulate you. [5:12:12] All right.