Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 643 › Conversation 643-005

Nixon with unidentified visitors in the Oval Office on White House photography

Monday, January 3, 1972 · 2:10 PM–2:17 PM ET · Oval Office · 43 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)]Conversation643-005 on Tape 643 (tape position 00:15:28–00:16:04)StartMonday, January 3, 1972 at 2:10 PMEndMonday, January 3, 1972 at 2:17 PMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 643-005 ↗ · National Archives Catalog, NAID 417183195 ↗

President Nixon met with an unknown woman to oversee a photography session, discussing the importance of projecting a "smiling" and "fun-looking" image for upcoming political appearances and campaign optics. Following the shoot, the conversation shifted to internal personnel and administrative management, including instructions to keep the White House grounds clean and orderly for official guests. The President and the attendee also touched upon the necessity of maintaining professionalism among the staff and ensuring that various official projects were properly executed and reported.

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On January 3, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 2:17 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 643-005 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 643-5

Date: January 3, 1972
Time: Unknown between 2:10 pm and 2:17 pm
Location: Oval Office

The President met with an unknown woman.

     Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr.
           -Location
           -Dogs

The unknown woman left at an unknown time before 2:17 pm.

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Seeing he's still here, I wanted to see the dogs.
I thought you had a mistake.
  • 642-028 12:46 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:46 pm and 2:07 pm.
  • 643-003 2:07 PM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Jack J. Dreyfus, Jr., and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:07 pm to 2:10 pm.
  • 643-004 2:10 PM · 17 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 2:17 pm.
  • 643-006 2:10 PM · 33 sec — President Richard M. Nixon, unknown person(s), and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 2:17 pm.
  • 643-007 2:10 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Stephen B. Bull, and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 2:10 pm and 2:17 pm.
  • 643-008 2:17 PM · 50 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Charles W. Colson, unknown person(s), Manolo Sanchez, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:17 pm to 3:07 pm.
  • 018-108 2:58 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Rogers C. B. Morton talked on the telephone from 2:58 pm to 3:00 pm.
  • 643-010 3:07 PM · 34 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Henry Ford, II, Edwin D. Etherington, Charles W. Colson, Rayburn D. Hanzlik, White House photographer, Stephen B. Bull, Manolo Sanchez, and Peter G. Peterson met in the Oval Office of the White House from 3:07 pm to 3:40 pm.

Conversation 643-005, January 3, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives (NAID 417183195). Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/643-005 (accessed November 2, 2026).