{"conversationCode":"644-004","tapeNumber":644,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-644-004","startDateTime":"1972-01-10T14:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-10T15:22:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jan-1972","startTime":"9:46 AM","endDate":"10-Jan-1972","endTime":"10:22 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:46 am and 10:22 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 644-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 644-4\n\nDate: January 10, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:46 am and 10:22 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\fThe President met with Stephen B. Bull at an unknown time after 9:46 am.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -John D. Ehrlichman\n               -Value-added tax [VAT]\n          -Gerald L. Warren\n               -Press\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:22 am.","filename":["644-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:12:09","tapeEnd":"00:12:42","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"644-003","nextCode":"644-005","transcript":[{"start":0.35,"end":9.12,"text":"I'll have to let him know because I'm busy right now."},{"start":9.14,"end":14.27,"text":"I won't be able to see him right now."},{"start":14.39,"end":16.09,"text":"I'm busy."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his aide Stephen B. Bull to manage his immediate schedule and prioritize his upcoming meetings. The discussion focused on coordinating a briefing with John D. Ehrlichman regarding the potential implementation of a value-added tax and managing related press relations. Ultimately, the President directed Bull to defer the meeting with Ehrlichman due to competing scheduling pressures.","topics":["White House scheduling","John D. Ehrlichman","Value-added tax","Economic policy","Press relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:46:06.013Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-scheduling","john-d-ehrlichman","value-added-tax","economic-policy","press-relations"],"audioDurationSec":28,"audioFiles":[{"file":"644-004.mp3","bytes":287993,"durationSec":28.37,"bitrate":81200,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.663Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:12.737Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/644-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/644-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/644/conversation-644-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}