{"conversationCode":"644-008","tapeNumber":644,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-644-008","startDateTime":"1972-01-10T16:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-10T16:55:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jan-1972","startTime":"11:52 AM","endDate":"10-Jan-1972","endTime":"11:55 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:52 am and 11:55 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 644-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 644-8\n\nDate: January 10, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:52 am and 11:55 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/03/2022.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[644-008-w001]\n[Duration: 19s]\n\n      The President’s schedule\n           -Dr. W. Kenneth Riland\n\n**********************************************************************\n\f     The President's schedule\n          -Photograph sessions\n               -Health Service Industry Committee\n               -[David] Kenneth Rush\n\n     Taping of audio messages\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:55 am.","filename":["644-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:38:39","tapeEnd":"01:39:49","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"644-007","nextCode":"644-009","transcript":[{"start":0.05,"end":1.57,"text":"Mr. President, you will see Dr. Brown on this, uh, next Wednesday."},{"start":1.59,"end":1.63,"text":"Uh..."},{"start":1.65,"end":11.96,"text":"I think, uh, I would be happy if we, uh... We can put him on, Captain."},{"start":12,"end":13.58,"text":"We'll put him on tentatively, you know, Captain."},{"start":13.66,"end":17.14,"text":"Because we, uh, I may have to be in a tentative position."},{"start":17.25,"end":18.31,"text":"All right."},{"start":18.69,"end":18.91,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":33.27,"end":39.66,"text":"to get the health services the hell out of here."},{"start":39.7,"end":42.19,"text":"Are they ready?"},{"start":43.11,"end":44.23,"text":"I'll do that, buddy."},{"start":44.99,"end":46.89,"text":"All right, I'll do the audio, OK?"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize scheduling arrangements for upcoming meetings, specifically regarding Dr. W. Kenneth Riland and the Health Service Industry Committee. They discussed the coordination of photo sessions and the potential need for tentative scheduling of these appointments. The President instructed Bull to expedite the departure of the health services representatives following their session.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Health Service Industry Committee","W. Kenneth Riland","Stephen B. Bull","White House logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:46:30.201Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","health-service-industry-committee","w-kenneth-riland","stephen-b-bull","white-house-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":50,"audioFiles":[{"file":"644-008.mp3","bytes":502460,"durationSec":49.82,"bitrate":80679,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.662Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:44:12.740Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/644-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/644-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/644/conversation-644-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}