{"conversationCode":"644-016","tapeNumber":644,"conversationNumber":16,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-644-016","startDateTime":"1972-01-10T18:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-10T18:34:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Jan-1972","startTime":"1:25 PM","endDate":"10-Jan-1972","endTime":"1:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"United States Secret Service agents; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Hess, Stephen;","description":"On January 10, 1972, United States Secret Service agents, President Richard M. Nixon, and Stephen Hess met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:25 pm and 1:34 pm. 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It has been rereviewed and\nreleased 08/04/2022.]\n[Unintelligible]\n[644-016-w003]\n[Duration: 1m 5s]\n\n     General conversation [?]\n\n**************************************************************************\n\n**************************************************************************\n\f[Previous PRMPA Federal Statute (A) withdrawal. This segment was rereviewed 08/04/2022\nwith new guidance. Segment cleared for release.]\n[Federal Statute]\n[644-016-w001]\n[Duration: 6s]\n\n     Inquiry about telephone call\n\n**************************************************************************\n\n     Need for agent\n\n     The President's schedule\n\n**************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Previous PRMPA Federal Statute (A) withdrawal reviewed 08/04/2022. Segment will remain\nclosed.]\n[Federal Statute]\n[644-016-w002]\n[Duration: 3s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n**************************************************************************\n\nThis recording was cut off at an unknown time before 1:34 pm.","filename":["644-016.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:08:10","tapeEnd":"03:12:06","participantsList":["United States Secret Service agents","Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Hess, Stephen"],"prevCode":"644-015","nextCode":"644-017","transcript":[{"start":0.07,"end":0.81,"text":"This is the office right now."},{"start":0.83,"end":1.53,"text":"He's in the reception area."},{"start":1.55,"end":2.15,"text":"He's at the reception area."},{"start":160.58,"end":160.74,"text":"Charlie."},{"start":160.92,"end":161.06,"text":"Charlie."},{"start":161.1,"end":161.34,"text":"Charlie."},{"start":161.38,"end":161.52,"text":"Charlie."},{"start":161.54,"end":161.68,"text":"Charlie."},{"start":175.07,"end":175.16,"text":"Yes."},{"start":216.35,"end":216.47,"text":"Yes, ."},{"start":216.51,"end":217.19,"text":"Do you want a uniform up here?"},{"start":217.24,"end":217.31,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":217.34,"end":217.44,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":217.46,"end":217.96,"text":"He's down there."},{"start":218.04,"end":218.44,"text":"He's down at home."},{"start":218.46,"end":219.22,"text":"I need a uniform up here."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Secret Service agents coordinate security logistics regarding an individual identified as Charlie. The discussion centers on the immediate requirement for a uniformed officer to be stationed at the Oval Office. 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