Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 647-012
Date: Thursday, January 13, 1972 at 12:37 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sheehan, James E. (Lt. Cmdr.); Sheehan, John; Sheehan, Kathleen; Sheehan, Kelly; Sheehan, Kevin; Sheehan, Eugene T.; Sheehan, Edward J.; Smith, Geneva; Griffin, C. D. (Adm.); Nunn, Louie B.; Cooper, John Sherman; Sparkman, John J.; Burns, Arthur F.; Robertson, J. L.; Mitchell, George W.; Daane, J. Dewey; Maisel, Sherman J.; Brimmer, Andrew F.; Holland, Robert; Shultz, George P.; Stein, Herbert; Flanigan, Peter M.; Malek, Frederic V.; Atkins, Oliver F. ("Ollie"); James, E. Pendleton
Recording device: Oval Office
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/647-012

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[2:20:09] You've got to go over to this side, on this long side.
[2:20:15] You've got to go over to this side.
[2:20:17] You've got to go over to this side.
[2:20:31] Okay.
[2:20:32] All right.
[2:20:33] Good luck.
[2:20:34] Appreciate your hard work.
[2:21:01] I'm trying to work it into my conclusion, my stage of vision.
[2:21:08] But also, I've already had to set up three ways to address that.
[2:21:15] And that's why I don't go around to each of the churches, but on purpose.
[2:21:22] Because as you said, we touch on views.
[2:21:25] I mean, it's what we need to do if you've got an idea of excellence.
[2:21:47] Thank you.
[2:21:48] Thank you.
[2:22:09] Thank you.
[2:22:47] All right, good evening, we're going to stand right here, sir.
[2:23:06] Good evening.
[2:23:12] Thank you very much.
[2:23:41] Thank you.
[2:24:14] Well, that's the job.
[2:24:24] We're gathering the data.
[2:24:40] I swear to the Federal Reserve.
[2:24:42] It will be noted that he comes from Kentucky.
[2:24:49] It will also be noted that he's a man who travels with young.
[2:24:56] Of course, he should be because this is not my first time he's been here.
[2:25:00] He doesn't understand it.
[2:25:03] But the one thing that I've been talking to Dr. Arthur Burns and Dr. Tom is that a lot of the
[2:25:10] a reserve with conscience.
[2:25:13] It was thought that while we have the greatest respect for your conscience, we recognize in particular on the Federal Reserve that you need a very powerful voice, a representative of business, young, vigorous.
[2:25:30] and successful and those were some of the considerations.
[2:25:35] And he has, of course, Dr. Ernest Krugel, Dr. Krugel, Secretary of the Treasury, and he was a statewide commentator.
[2:25:49] Now, you hold the Bible.
[2:25:52] Judges.
[2:25:56] Will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.
[2:26:17] That I would bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
[2:26:21] That I would bear true faith and allegiance to the same.
[2:26:24] That I take this obligation freely.
[2:26:26] That I take this obligation freely.
[2:26:28] Without any natural reservation or purpose of evasion.
[2:26:32] Without any natural reservation or purpose of evasion.
[2:26:35] that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.
[2:26:42] That I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter.
[2:26:46] So help me God.
[2:26:47] So help me God.
[2:27:03] 17 years.
[2:27:04] Now here's the fact that we're only going to pick two of the facts.
[2:27:14] You stand here.
[2:27:15] I mean, you, you, you, you, you, you get over here by here.
[2:27:20] All of us are dead.
[2:27:30] Dr. Burns, if you would step up here, I'm shocked at you with this group.
[2:27:34] The family will be out of this.
[2:27:38] We want to record this.
[2:27:45] Now, the two senators and the governor have come over to the right now.
[2:27:52] How are you seeing this city?
[2:27:55] We've got a spark in your eyes.
[2:27:56] Yes, sir.
[2:27:57] We've got work to do.
[2:27:58] What, 17 years?
[2:27:59] That's right.
[2:28:02] Now, let's see.
[2:28:03] We do stuff on the other side of there, so if you ever want to bounce.
[2:28:10] So let's try to get that out of the way.
[2:28:20] I used to take him to life, Jim, because once you do that for her, he's not going to let you say anything unless you're ready.
[2:28:30] I said, I'm going to be smart with my old friend, so I'll talk to him.
[2:28:37] My tendency, Mr. Patton, the tendency to, uh,
[2:28:48] Well, that's, uh, I mean, that indicates that you're probably a good man.
[2:28:51] Nobody's ever said less.
[2:28:53] Well, I've done more.
[2:28:56] And that is, the Greeks had a legend for happiness, which goes, that is to exercise vital powers along the lines of excellence in life according to the scope.
[2:29:16] I've had a short experience with the feds so far.
[2:29:19] I can hardly imagine any much bigger than garbage stock burn in the suburbs.
[2:29:28] I mean, in a situation like this, it's very, it's very hard to get a scope, or more scope than a draft.
[2:29:38] Bigger than my spot.
[2:29:41] All right, fine, fine.
[2:29:44] Let's see here.
[2:29:45] We have some of the guests already asked if they've been here for others.
[2:30:07] The custom is that those who attend receive the presidential compliments, which is the seal of the company.
[2:30:13] Now, ladies, if you're a little bold like that, of course, you're up to date, too.
[2:30:18] And if any of you already have them, I think the senators are ready to give it to you.
[2:30:22] But if I was going to say it in the face, I'm going to say that maybe you're going to support me.
[2:30:31] Maybe you're not going to.
[2:30:32] Oh, my God.
[2:30:33] Oh, my God.
[2:31:05] Louis, good to see you.
[2:31:07] What do you think of that monitor right now?
[2:31:10] Oh, I don't know.
[2:31:12] Is it your camera?
[2:31:14] Yeah.
[2:31:18] I'm going to stay out here.
[2:31:21] We've got to.
[2:31:24] Yeah, I haven't said, we've got to.
[2:31:28] That's it.
[2:31:29] Thanks for coming.
[2:31:30] Yeah, you're welcome.
[2:31:35] But you owe us that, don't you?
[2:31:37] You don't owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:38] You don't owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:41] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:42] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:47] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:50] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:53] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:58] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:31:59] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:32:01] You owe us to say, uh, yeah.
[2:32:46] Yeah.
[2:32:47] Yeah.
[2:33:13] Thank you.
[2:33:34] This is important.
[2:33:35] Arthur, you and I should be in the middle, and then the rest of the governors.
[2:34:17] Thank you.
[2:34:38] Well, there's two more of them.
[2:34:42] Two of them sent to the governor's office.
[2:34:46] Two more.
[2:34:48] They've got nothing.
[2:34:49] But their eyes are closed, and their ears don't have a copy.
[2:34:54] I can't understand what is that.
[2:34:55] That's right.
[2:34:56] I can't see anything.
[2:34:57] It's great.
[2:34:57] Very good.
[2:34:58] Well, this is good.
[2:34:58] They're all here to help you.
[2:35:00] Thank you.
[2:35:01] Thank you.
[2:35:05] Thank you.
[2:35:34] Yes, very nice.
[2:36:21] Also, he wants the members of the board to be independent, too.
[2:36:30] But literally, he wanted to listen to you today.
[2:36:36] Every time we're...
[2:36:51] I'll good
[2:37:27] So, in the sense of the present time, you know, basically, you're a middle-of-the-road, decent, tall, that you're the kind of tall that you have to have.
[2:37:40] Now, I know that you can only get up there and beat around, but at this particular time, we've got the goddamn war orgies, we're moving to China, we've got the Soviet, we're going to have a nuclear reform policy,
[2:37:56] I agree with you that you would be very important.
[2:37:57] So I just want you to know that I don't have to argue with you about that.
[2:38:01] I'm not that.
[2:38:02] I'm not that.
[2:38:03] I saw what you mean by it.
[2:38:05] I don't think you thought that.
[2:38:06] But also, I think you said it.
[2:38:09] And that's not where it's at.
[2:38:10] Well, I think I have a question for you.
[2:38:13] I hear a lot of things.
[2:38:14] I hear a lot of things.
[2:38:15] I hear a lot of things.
[2:38:18] I hear a lot of things.
[2:38:20] I hear a lot of things.
[2:38:21] I hear a lot of things.
[2:38:24] Even the last one, I put her shirt in, and I said, well, good.
[2:38:28] And that day, we're not coming down to the end of it.
[2:38:31] I helped $70,000 in order to get my name first, and that brings it down to $69,000.
[2:38:34] And that's what I'm doing.
[2:38:36] But I'm going to go to the end of that.
[2:38:44] Yeah, it must be terrible.
[2:38:46] It might be, but it makes you go, each time, basically, it makes you go down, the time goes on, and even you change, and you begin to change.
[2:38:54] I don't know, it's a war, but it's not been very good.
[2:38:58] It's been a good couple of years, but it's not been very good.
[2:39:01] You were way off the, uh, uh, I ain't gonna have that.
[2:39:08] Sure.
[2:39:09] I guess you get it, or you live beyond it.
[2:39:11] You know what I mean?
[2:39:13] Well, you know, I hate to give up, and I, I know this is the last before I get beat.
[2:39:20] I always said, well, I'll come back, you know, from where the hell I did.
[2:39:23] And I know this time, if you give up, you'll never be back on that planet.
[2:39:28] Doesn't say it.
[2:41:08] I know how you fought.
[2:41:09] You're an honorable man.
[2:41:11] God damn, you're a very honorable man in this world.
[2:41:14] Well, another time.
[2:41:20] Good.
[2:41:21] I'd like to say it's an impossible situation.
[2:41:29] He is ready for as long as it's about.
[2:41:47] I mean, how kind of policy do you like?
[2:41:52] Thank you very much.
[2:41:54] He's very good.
[2:41:55] He sounded reasonable.
[2:41:57] I think there's still a chance for maybe another reception.