{"conversationCode":"647-019","tapeNumber":647,"conversationNumber":19,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-647-019","startDateTime":"1972-01-13T19:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-13T19:21:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Jan-1972","startTime":"2:16 PM","endDate":"13-Jan-1972","endTime":"2:21 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Huntsman, Jon M.; Huntsman, Jon M. (Mrs.); Huntsman, Jon M., Jr.; Huntsman, Peter; Huntsman, Kathleen; Huntsman, Kristina; Huntsman, James; Huntsman, Paul; Huntsman, David; Butterfield, Alexander P.; White House photographer;","description":"On January 13, 1972, Jon M. Huntsman, Mrs. Jon M. Huntsman, Jon M. Huntsman, Jr., Paul Huntsman, Kathleen Huntsman, Kristina Huntsman, James Huntsman, Paul Huntsman, David Huntsman, Alexander P. Butterfield, and White House photographer met in the Oval Office of the White House from 2:16 pm to 2:21 pm. 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Malek\n\n     Introductions\n\n     Photographic session\n          -Arrangements\n\n     [General conversation]\n\n     Presentation of gifts\n\n     Huntsman's family\n\n     The President’s advice\n\nHuntsman, et al., left at 2:21 pm.","filename":["647a.mp3","647b.mp3","647c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:55:20","tapeEnd":"04:00:58","participantsList":["Huntsman, Jon M.","Huntsman, Jon M. 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$1,000."},{"start":14146.51,"end":14147.23,"text":"That's okay."},{"start":14147.25,"end":14148.31,"text":"I know what that is."},{"start":14148.37,"end":14150.53,"text":"It's a little smaller than that."},{"start":14150.79,"end":14151.15,"text":"All right."},{"start":14151.19,"end":14152.32,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":14152.33,"end":14155.11,"text":"Thank you very much for that."},{"start":14155.45,"end":14156.28,"text":"Thanks for your help."},{"start":14156.46,"end":14157.32,"text":"I appreciate it."},{"start":14157.34,"end":14157.6,"text":"Oh, great."},{"start":14157.64,"end":14164.52,"text":"If I go online and talk about branding this, you see the heart on my videos."},{"start":14164.54,"end":14165.14,"text":"Oh, God."},{"start":14165.16,"end":14166.42,"text":"I have to go another way."},{"start":14166.44,"end":14167.12,"text":"I don't know anything."},{"start":14167.92,"end":14168.98,"text":"That's why this appeals to me."},{"start":14170.74,"end":14170.96,"text":"Okay."},{"start":14185.44,"end":14185.62,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":14185.68,"end":14186.98,"text":"Well, it's too bad."},{"start":14188.16,"end":14190.58,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":14190.66,"end":14193.24,"text":"I can't see."},{"start":14193.3,"end":14195.48,"text":"We just had, what, 37 kids or something like that."},{"start":14196.48,"end":14197.36,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":14198.38,"end":14198.76,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":14212.51,"end":14218.92,"text":"Well, I don't know about that, but Christ's sake, just tell them that they're coming."},{"start":14218.94,"end":14220.46,"text":"So they don't expect a sniper yet."},{"start":14220.84,"end":14226.83,"text":"Excuse me, I didn't hear anything."},{"start":14281.84,"end":14295.68,"text":"Well, here are all the huntsmen."},{"start":14295.76,"end":14301.52,"text":"We're sorry to leave you with our fireworks."},{"start":14301.62,"end":14305.12,"text":"In fact, they're here with 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