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Conversation 651-007

TapeTape 651StartWednesday, January 19, 1972 at 10:13 AMEndWednesday, January 19, 1972 at 10:21 AMTape start time00:18:53Tape end time00:26:23ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Rockefeller, Nelson A.Recording deviceOval Office
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On January 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Nelson A. Rockefeller met in the Oval Office of the White House from 10:13 am to 10:21 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 651-007 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 651-7

Time: 10:13 am - 10:21 am
Location: Oval Office

The President talked with Nelson A. Rockefeller.

[See Conversation No. 19-6]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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I was very interested to read the New York Times this morning, the military state of the state, and the reaction of our mutual friend.
Ha!
You really took the blood off, didn't you?
What have you decided at this time?
Right.
Right.
Very good.
32.
Right, right.
Right.
And they do pretty well.
Dragon?
Right.
I bet you just gotta have one man do it all if he doesn't have heart condition.
They've got to be afraid of us.
My gosh, you can't go through the city without knowing.
I mean, that's how it's got to be done.
It's going to have to be a revolutionary change.
I mean...
I thought I was correct.
I thought I might be a little far, so I wanted to check to see what you thought.
Well, you were very kind in what you said about me, and I appreciate it.
I think in this time that really has to all be exposed for what he is.
He's a charlatan.
Charlatan.
I mean, you know, all that business of, you know, charisma and all this.
He's Mr. Clean.
Everybody else is sort of a dirty politician.
My God, it's been a lousy job he's done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's right.
Well, that's fine.
I'm just working on a little statement tomorrow.
I don't, I have to be brought on the, I have to be brought on the IP side of the career commanding.
At this point, I'm going to have to be an obligatory part of the Congress and say let's get revenue sharing through and all the other things.
that if they just screw around about the 1st of May, well, about 15th of May, we've got to go to the U.S. because you'll know that Teddy and some of the others are getting all partisan.
Pretty rough.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if that's the way it's going to be.
But I think that my posture ought to be conciliatory at the moment.
Don't you agree?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
I don't want to do anything to break it off so that they have an excuse for saying it's made it partisan.
So it'll be quite conciliatory.
It won't make the chair.
It won't make the Republican chair.
It'll also not make the
Right back.
I'll check it out on the shelves.
Good.
Well, I have to tell you, I think we're going to have, we're going to have, we're going to have a question.
We just don't know if the deficit occurs when the economy is not multiplied and is not inflationary.
It's when the deficit, that's where we're all going to be.
But on that, the deficit thing, we're going to cut this budget back and also
We have already helped, and I keep the word.
We really have, you know?
Oh, good.
Yes, well, we would die if you killed us with that.
If you killed us.
Yeah.
We had it.
We just reverted.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I get it.
I got the word.
Well, you get it.
Don't bother.
Don't bother.
We'll go down.
We'll go down later.
Good.
Good.
Okay.
Great.
Great.
Bye.
Bye.
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