{"conversationCode":"652-004","tapeNumber":652,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-652-004","startDateTime":"1972-01-20T18:29:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-20T18:33:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Jan-1972","startTime":"1:29 PM","endDate":"20-Jan-1972","endTime":"1:33 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 20, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 1:29 pm and 1:33 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 652-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 652-4\n\nDate: January 20, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:29 pm and 1:33 pm\n\fLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Charles W. Colson and Clark MacGregor\nBull left at an unknown time before 1:33 pm.","filename":["652-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:18:47","tapeEnd":"00:21:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"652-003","nextCode":"652-005","transcript":[{"start":1.16,"end":9.12,"text":"You see if, uh, Colson, one of the folks that came in together says, yeah, they're free."},{"start":9.14,"end":10.66,"text":"Either one."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to coordinate the schedules of Charles W. Colson and Clark MacGregor. The President instructed Bull to verify if either individual was available to meet immediately. The conversation resulted in Bull taking action to confirm the availability of these staff members for an impromptu briefing.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Charles W. Colson","Clark MacGregor","White House staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:54:32.740Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","charles-w-colson","clark-macgregor","white-house-staff"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"652-004.mp3","bytes":127076,"durationSec":12.28,"bitrate":82752,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.664Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/652-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/652-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/652/conversation-652-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}