{"conversationCode":"653-003","tapeNumber":653,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-653-003","startDateTime":"1972-01-24T13:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-24T15:04:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Jan-1972","startTime":"8:58 AM","endDate":"24-Jan-1972","endTime":"10:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:58 am and 10:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 653-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 653-3\n\nDate: January 24, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:58 am and 10:04 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Signing 1973 budget message\n                  -Oliver F. (“Ollie”) Atkins\n                         -Photographs session\n                  -Press\n                  -Arrangements\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 10:04 am.","filename":["653-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:17:47","tapeEnd":"00:29:58","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"653-002","nextCode":"653-004","transcript":[{"start":1.18,"end":2.5,"text":"I just wanted to be clear on this."},{"start":2.52,"end":5.39,"text":"The buggy attacks we signed, all they had was a sketch."},{"start":5.91,"end":7.01,"text":"They said, no press."},{"start":7.29,"end":9.37,"text":"There's no press planned."},{"start":9.97,"end":11.37,"text":"I'll put up a sketch."},{"start":11.39,"end":13.12,"text":"I'll put up a sketch."},{"start":13.29,"end":14.36,"text":"I'll put up a sketch."},{"start":14.38,"end":24.05,"text":"I'll put up a sketch."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met to finalize logistical arrangements for the upcoming signing of the 1973 budget message. They discussed the necessity of coordinating with photographer Oliver F. Atkins and established that no press presence would be permitted at the event. The conversation concluded with Bull confirming that only a sketch of the signing would be released to the public.","topics":["1973 budget message","Presidential scheduling","White House press relations","Oliver F. Atkins","Administrative logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:56:10.934Z"},"topicSlugs":["1973-budget-message","presidential-scheduling","white-house-press-relations","oliver-f-atkins","administrative-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":26,"audioFiles":[{"file":"653-003.mp3","bytes":264744,"durationSec":26.05,"bitrate":81304,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.664Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/653-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/653-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/653/conversation-653-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}