{"conversationCode":"653-004","tapeNumber":653,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-653-004","startDateTime":"1972-01-24T13:58:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-24T15:04:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Jan-1972","startTime":"8:58 AM","endDate":"24-Jan-1972","endTime":"10:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:58 am and 10:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 653-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 653-4\n\fDate: January 24, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:58 am and 10:04 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n       Rose Mary Woods’s schedule\n            -Marjorie P. Acker\n                 -Schedule\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 10:04 am.","filename":["653-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:29:58","tapeEnd":"00:30:46","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"653-003","nextCode":"653-005","transcript":[{"start":0.07,"end":3.06,"text":"I think the old jet boat will get a fire and she'll be back back soon."},{"start":3.5,"end":5.28,"text":"I don't know where Mark is."},{"start":5.3,"end":6.16,"text":"I don't know where Mark is."},{"start":6.18,"end":6.66,"text":"He's in the garden."},{"start":6.68,"end":8.13,"text":"I don't know where he is."},{"start":8.15,"end":8.83,"text":"I don't know where he is."},{"start":8.85,"end":10.51,"text":"I don't know where he is."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal valet, Manolo Sanchez, to discuss mundane administrative and personal logistics at the White House. The brief conversation included inquiries regarding the whereabouts of staff members and the schedule of Rose Mary Woods, specifically concerning Marjorie P. Acker. No significant policy decisions were made during this exchange, which focused primarily on routine personnel management.","topics":["Manolo Sanchez","Rose Mary Woods","Marjorie P. Acker","White House personnel","Daily scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:56:16.271Z"},"topicSlugs":["manolo-sanchez","rose-mary-woods","marjorie-p-acker","white-house-personnel","daily-scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":18,"audioFiles":[{"file":"653-004.mp3","bytes":184805,"durationSec":18.06,"bitrate":81879,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.663Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/653-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/653-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/653/conversation-653-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}