{"conversationCode":"653-011","tapeNumber":653,"conversationNumber":11,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-653-011","startDateTime":"1972-01-24T16:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-24T16:59:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Jan-1972","startTime":"11:55 AM","endDate":"24-Jan-1972","endTime":"11:59 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:55 am and 11:59 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 653-011 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 653-11\n\nDate: January 24, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 11:55 am and 11:59 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n       The President’s schedule\n            -Frank L. Rizzo\n                  -Roosevelt Room\n                  -John D. Ehrlichman\n                  -Photograph session\n            -Barber\n            -William L. Safire\n                  -Speech draft\n            -Rizzo\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:59 am.","filename":["653-011.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:11:24","tapeEnd":"02:12:38","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"653-010","nextCode":"653-012","transcript":[{"start":1.05,"end":6.09,"text":"I don't think you have a problem there."},{"start":6.19,"end":19.2,"text":"And I'd like to get the barter today, if I could, to say we're out there."},{"start":30.84,"end":37.09,"text":"I don't care when, any time, between now and 3 o'clock."},{"start":37.17,"end":43.27,"text":"Or basically, no, it doesn't have to be between now and 3 or, say, around 5 o'clock tonight."},{"start":43.45,"end":45.09,"text":"Whatever it is, he's got other appointments."},{"start":45.11,"end":48.07,"text":"Staff Sergeant, indicate if you may wish to see him today."},{"start":48.13,"end":50.09,"text":"Well, I'll let him know."},{"start":50.11,"end":53.89,"text":"I mean, well, I've seen him, but we haven't decided yet."},{"start":54.35,"end":55.51,"text":"Don't you see the draft?"},{"start":56.31,"end":57.21,"text":"I'll let you know."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull reviewed the President’s daily schedule, focusing on coordination for upcoming appointments and document reviews. Key items included arranging a meeting with Frank L. Rizzo, scheduling a photograph session with John D. Ehrlichman, and managing the review of a speech draft prepared by William L. Safire. The discussion concluded with instructions for Bull to manage the logistics of these meetings and finalize the timeline for the President's remaining tasks.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Frank L. Rizzo","White House staff","Speechwriting","William L. Safire","John D. Ehrlichman"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T01:56:55.992Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","frank-l-rizzo","white-house-staff","speechwriting","william-l-safire","john-d-ehrlichman"],"audioDurationSec":58,"audioFiles":[{"file":"653-011.mp3","bytes":582917,"durationSec":57.88,"bitrate":80564,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.664Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/653-011.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/653-011","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/653/conversation-653-011","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}