{"conversationCode":"658-006","tapeNumber":658,"conversationNumber":6,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-658-006","startDateTime":"1972-01-27T16:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-27T16:13:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Jan-1972","startTime":"11:12 AM","endDate":"27-Jan-1972","endTime":"11:13 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:12 am and 11:13 am. 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