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Connally between 11:32 am and 11:41 am.]\n\n[Conversation No. 658-9A]\n\n[See Conversation No. 19-132; two items have been withdrawn from the conversation]\n\nAn unknown person entered at an unknown time after 11:32 am.\n\n     Herbert Stein\n\n     [Signing documents]\n          -Ezra Solomon\n\nThe unknown person left at an unknown time before 11:45 am.\n\n     J. Willard Marriott\n           -Request of Butterfield to be liaison\n           -Honor America Day\n           -Unknown person\n\nStephen B. Bull entered at an unknown time after 11:41 am.\n\n     The President’s schedule\n          -Meeting with Charles W. Colson\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 11:45 am.\n\n           -Camp David\n                -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n           -Forthcoming meetings\n\nButterfield left at 11:45 am.","filename":["658a.mp3","658b.mp3","658c.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:30:09","tapeEnd":"02:45:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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