{"conversationCode":"658-027","tapeNumber":658,"conversationNumber":27,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-658-027","startDateTime":"1972-01-27T20:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-27T20:07:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Jan-1972","startTime":"3:00 PM","endDate":"27-Jan-1972","endTime":"3:07 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 27, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 3:00 pm and 3:07 pm. 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(President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"658-026","nextCode":"658-028","tapeTranscriptFile":"658a.mp3,658b.mp3,658c.mp3","transcript":[{"start":17095.77,"end":17100.57,"text":"Do you still want to go at least another big time?"},{"start":17101.59,"end":17103.13,"text":"Yeah, about 3.30 I think."},{"start":17103.33,"end":17109.5,"text":"We'll just have helicopters in here then, so we can do 3.30."},{"start":17110.28,"end":17111.62,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":17111.88,"end":17115.02,"text":"With regard to... One per day."},{"start":17115.1,"end":17117.26,"text":"Tomorrow we have a press panel."},{"start":17117.36,"end":17120.23,"text":"It's a very small event, but we'd like to have it."},{"start":17125.26,"end":17127,"text":"I understand you feel a lot better."},{"start":17131.79,"end":17132.47,"text":"Oh, that's right."},{"start":17133.29,"end":17134.39,"text":"That's right."},{"start":17134.53,"end":17145.46,"text":"Let me tell you, it doesn't put a burden on you about the things that I think might be useful for your information."},{"start":17145.86,"end":17158.9,"text":"I'd be glad to have Henry drop over and give you a sort of behind-the-scenes analysis of those talks that he had with an army of Canadians."},{"start":17159.8,"end":17159.92,"text":"Yes."},{"start":17195.22,"end":17195.62,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17195.9,"end":17196.19,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17196.21,"end":17196.53,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17197.65,"end":17197.93,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17198.51,"end":17198.75,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17198.79,"end":17198.89,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17198.91,"end":17199.03,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17199.07,"end":17199.19,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17199.23,"end":17199.37,"text":"Ja."},{"start":17220.79,"end":17221.63,"text":"Yes, yes."},{"start":17227.53,"end":17228.09,"text":"Oh, why?"},{"start":17228.67,"end":17230.97,"text":"Yes, yes, that was it."},{"start":17230.99,"end":17234.58,"text":"The other one, that which is directly related to us will not be created with time."},{"start":17235.24,"end":17238.64,"text":"I know that you're interested in the defense budget, and the..."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":17091.375,"end":17239.625,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with aide Stephen B. 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