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How are you?

I'm very well.

I'm sure you know my name.

Yes, yes.

How are you?

Paul Filcher.

Oh, it's great to be here.

We're going to investigate one of your factories.

Yeah.

When do you think that is?

Nobody's got it.

He takes care of the tape and stuff.

And, uh, you take care of the people.

You take care of them.

I'll put them in his insert.

Sure.

And they take care of you.

But you're more what he's doing.

Tractors.

You need both.

You've got it all down pat.

Oh, yeah.

Thank you very much.

I don't know.

The significance of this standpoint of those who are reporting it is that it shows the comprehensive approach of the administration to the problem of dangerous drugs.

In so many fields, everybody comes up with the simple answer, and there is, of course, no simple answer.

I was once told that we could only stop the supply of heroin from Turkey, that that would take care of half the problem.

Well, we have moved on that subject, you know, very effectively.

And we have moved on the supply front not only with foreign governments.

We've moved the Turkish government, the French government, and others.

We still haven't solved it.

But our customs people particularly have done a splendid job.

The second area, which we can move on, is at the other end of the funnel, and that's after the drugs come in, after the drugs are used, how do you take care of addicts?

And also, how do you prevent it?

Dr. Chaffee, of course, is generally recognized as being the top expert in the country in that area, and has studied himself with the President in the past seven months.

set up a program that is making great progress in the prevention and in the treatment of drug users.

But then the third part of the problem is the law enforcement part.

After the drugs come in, before they are used, and

What we have here, unfortunately, we have had to rob the Treasury Department and the commissioners of their commission of customs.

The reason we have taken Miles Ambrose is that in the whole area of law enforcement, Attorney General agrees with this, he is the man who demonstrated as commissioner of customs that he knew how to handle this problem.

He has a magnificent record there.

And we felt that he was the man to move over now to the special office of the attorney general, of course, and assistant attorney general, the field of drug abuse law enforcement, and also a special consultant for the president for the purpose of bringing all of these activities under one tent.

Just to summarize it in a word,

In my view, there are many terrible crimes.

I speak as one who, of course, studied this in law school.

As I look at what happens to people, particularly to young people, and me,

Because, particularly where hard drugs are concerned, heroin, and that's where Stranbrook's office will concentrate, particularly with these nine regional offices, especially Grand Jersey, the life of an individual is destroyed.

And that is why I believe that

Now, the penalties must be adequate.

The Congress has provided for adequate penalties for the national laws of service.

But also, we have to have, at the federal level, a more effective law enforcement body, recognizing that, of course, nothing is going to work unless the state governments, the local governments cooperate.

But all of them well up in this initiative, isn't that true?

It's true.

They want this kind of leadership in the federal world.

The attorney general has spoken to the state's attorney generals.

We've spoken to also to the top.

I was on the phone yesterday with Sheriff Vicious of Los Angeles County, and I talked to Mayor Rizzo about this subject.

He, of course, was a partner of the police chief.

And they all agreed that this initiative could well be the greatest step forward that we have had in getting the drug pushers and drug traffickers off the streets and into jail.

And that's what your job is, and we trust you do as well as that, as you did in keeping drugs from coming into this country through the Commission of Questions Office.

And Dr. Jaffe, who, as you know, deals with prevention, and also with handling people after they become addicts, totally supports the hard line with regard to the pusher and the tractor.

Is that correct, Dr.?

Because we need both.

We must have compassion, understanding of those who become addicts and try to find cures for them, which we're doing.

But on the other hand, you've got to stop it if you can.

You've got to remove that temptation from them.

And the way to do that is to go after the pushers and traffickers.

And Mr. Amos, he now has his orders

My colleague stated it, but I knew she'd already said it.

My practice, I want you to hear it straight from me.

I see, I hear it.

The new proxy that the other day, I told her, yeah, just to remind her, told her, I have a heart.

I see it.

Yeah.

Well, so, I hate these travelers, you know.

You know what?

I hate them.

I really do.

Welcome to my desk.

It's very nice to see you.

I'm Christopher Steele.

Hi, Chris.

I'm glad to meet you.

This is number one.

This is number two.

Oh, yes.

This is Laura.

I believe you have this.

Are you number one?

Number one girl or number one man?

And here's number one.

That's all.

There's one more.

This is the yard that put me down here.

He's number one.

Thank you.

Right?

Well, we'll get a pan of pictures so you can commemorate this.

You sit on the right, your husband should be on the left.

And now each of the young people would sort of, you know, equalize themselves.

Yeah, that's right.

That's how your moms were there.

All of them.

All right, now we've got an internship for Mrs. Ambrose.

Mrs. Ambrose?

Any girls?

This is the presidential seat.

Well, we wish you well.

Arrest some of them.

As far as I'm concerned, the death penalty.

Hey, what was that, son?

Listen, nothing's too bad, but, you know, the cops, the press guys, the Marcos, they're the cops.

Yeah, they took us out, but we're free.

That's not what I'm talking about.

Our, our control is, uh, is, uh, we're gonna, uh, uh, we were there the other day, but we're trying to find a way to work this out.

I must say that I know that we've come out there to give the owls the bureaucracy that we have.

It's a much fine work of staff that we appreciate.

We appreciate your organization.

These are the top three.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.