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Nixon & Wallace on White House hospitality and Oval Office decor

Saturday, January 29, 1972 · 9:00 AM–9:04 AM ET · Oval Office · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan); Wallace, DeWitt; Wallace, Lila (Acheson)Conversation660-007 on Tape 660 (tape position 00:32:15–00:36:41)StartSaturday, January 29, 1972 at 9:00 AMEndSaturday, January 29, 1972 at 9:04 AMRecording deviceOval OfficeSourceNixon Library record for 660-007 ↗

President Richard Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon hosted Reader’s Digest founders DeWitt and Lila Wallace in the Oval Office for a brief social visit. The conversation focused on hospitality, the Wallaces' appreciation for their stay, and shared reflections on White House history, including the President's desk and artwork. The meeting concluded with the Nixons ensuring the couple had arranged transportation for their departure.

  • White House hospitality
  • DeWitt Wallace
  • Lila Acheson Wallace
  • Oval Office decor
  • Social visit

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Did you survive the night?
Oh, does that make a lot of noise?
That's wonderful.
We all make a lot of noise, don't we?
Never had a better sleep in my life.
Yeah.
Well, hey.
Well, we, uh... Lovely.
Well, we just, uh... Just so glad you could come down.
Well, we've been touring around this house and everything.
Great honor, the greatest honor anybody could ever have.
More heaven's fairer, better, more greatest hosts and hostesses.
And I wonder, to repeat what I just said, for heaven's sake, take care of yourself and don't work too hard.
Because you've got five more years to die.
And twelve.
The filthy ones will be here.
Oh, there it is.
It used to be at the Capitol when he was vice president.
Well, that's where it is.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go.
There we go.
My God, yes, they make everything.
They really do.
And that's a very unusual portrait of Washington, made by the older people, the father of the others, of the Rembrandt people.
I mean, it must have been, you know, he doesn't look like Washington at all.
You know, there's work, there's cruel work that Julie did that presented me the election day.
That's it.
It's kind of a machine to have it hanging.
It's her first trial.
She's very good.
We must be running low.
God bless you both.
Wow.
We appreciate you.
Coming down, we had great fun out in our young sex.
We gave our best for Mount Spitzco and Pleasantville and all the other lovely places.
Well, it's just beautiful, beautiful memories.
We were rather overcome by it all.
Do you have a car?
I don't have a car, no.
I don't think so.
I think we're supposed to get a car here.
Oh, sure, we encourage that.
Sure, sure.
Come on, you've got a chance to get the best when you're on this place.
Goodbye, and we're just so nice to see you.
And, uh, all your friends.
Well...

On January 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan) Nixon, DeWitt Wallace, and Lila (Acheson) Wallace met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:00 am to 9:04 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 660-007 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 660-007

Date: January 29, 1972
Time: 9:00 am - 9:04 am
Location: Oval Office

The President met with Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon, Dewitt Wallace and Lila (Acheson) Wallace.

     The Wallace’s comfort
          -Appreciation of visit

     The President’s health

     Oval Office
          -Desk
               -The President’s use as Vice President
          -Music box

     George Washington
          -[Charles Willson Peale]
          -Rembrandt Peale

     Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s crewel work

       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542

     Unknown place, Pleasantville

     Transportation

Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon, et al. left at 9:04 am.
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Conversation 660-007, January 29, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/660-007 (accessed October 12, 2026).