{"conversationCode":"660-007","tapeNumber":660,"conversationNumber":7,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-660-007","startDateTime":"1972-01-29T14:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-29T14:04:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Jan-1972","startTime":"9:00 AM","endDate":"29-Jan-1972","endTime":"9:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan); Wallace, DeWitt; Wallace, Lila (Acheson);","description":"On January 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon, DeWitt Wallace, and Lila (Acheson) Wallace met in the Oval Office of the White House from 9:00 am to 9:04 am. 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(“Pat”) Nixon, Dewitt Wallace and Lila (Acheson) Wallace.\n\n     The Wallace’s comfort\n          -Appreciation of visit\n\n     The President’s health\n\n     Oval Office\n          -Desk\n               -The President’s use as Vice President\n          -Music box\n\n     George Washington\n          -[Charles Willson Peale]\n          -Rembrandt Peale\n\n     Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s crewel work\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n     Unknown place, Pleasantville\n\n     Transportation\n\nThelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon, et al. left at 9:04 am.","filename":["660-007.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:32:15","tapeEnd":"00:36:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Wallace, DeWitt","Wallace, Lila (Acheson)"],"prevCode":"660-006","nextCode":"660-008","transcript":[{"start":6.17,"end":8.89,"text":"Did you survive the night?"},{"start":8.99,"end":10.67,"text":"Oh, does that make a lot of noise?"},{"start":10.73,"end":11.61,"text":"That's wonderful."},{"start":11.65,"end":14.11,"text":"We all make a lot of noise, don't we?"},{"start":14.21,"end":17.01,"text":"Never had a better sleep in my life."},{"start":17.03,"end":17.21,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":17.75,"end":18.45,"text":"Well, hey."},{"start":18.48,"end":19.2,"text":"Well, we, uh... Lovely."},{"start":19.61,"end":23.86,"text":"Well, we just, uh... Just so glad you could come down."},{"start":23.92,"end":26.8,"text":"Well, we've been touring around this house and everything."},{"start":27.63,"end":31.15,"text":"Great honor, the greatest honor anybody could ever have."},{"start":31.33,"end":36.8,"text":"More heaven's fairer, better, more greatest hosts and hostesses."},{"start":38.24,"end":44.38,"text":"And I wonder, to repeat what I just said, for heaven's sake, take care of yourself and don't work too hard."},{"start":45.02,"end":50.86,"text":"Because you've got five more years to die."},{"start":51.22,"end":52.66,"text":"And twelve."},{"start":53.81,"end":55.28,"text":"The filthy ones will be here."},{"start":55.76,"end":56.16,"text":"Oh, there it is."},{"start":56.18,"end":59.84,"text":"It used to be at the Capitol when he was vice president."},{"start":59.88,"end":60.76,"text":"Well, that's where it is."},{"start":60.86,"end":61.3,"text":"There we go."},{"start":61.34,"end":61.58,"text":"There we go."},{"start":61.64,"end":62.12,"text":"There we go."},{"start":62.16,"end":62.52,"text":"There we go."},{"start":62.54,"end":62.82,"text":"There we go."},{"start":62.84,"end":63.16,"text":"There we go."},{"start":76.89,"end":79.91,"text":"My God, yes, they make everything."},{"start":80.11,"end":81.03,"text":"They really do."},{"start":81.05,"end":91.02,"text":"And that's a very unusual portrait of Washington, made by the older people, the father of the others, of the Rembrandt people."},{"start":91.3,"end":99.39,"text":"I mean, it must have been, you know, he doesn't look like Washington at all."},{"start":103.33,"end":111.77,"text":"You know, there's work, there's cruel work that Julie did that presented me the election day."},{"start":111.79,"end":112.38,"text":"That's it."},{"start":113.38,"end":118.66,"text":"It's kind of a machine to have it hanging."},{"start":118.82,"end":121.04,"text":"It's her first trial."},{"start":121.08,"end":121.82,"text":"She's very good."},{"start":121.86,"end":124.33,"text":"We must be running low."},{"start":124.41,"end":125.51,"text":"God bless you both."},{"start":125.99,"end":126.33,"text":"Wow."},{"start":127.41,"end":128.31,"text":"We appreciate you."},{"start":129.44,"end":132.41,"text":"Coming down, we had great fun out in our young sex."},{"start":132.45,"end":137.36,"text":"We gave our best for Mount Spitzco and Pleasantville and all the other lovely places."},{"start":138,"end":140.96,"text":"Well, it's just beautiful, beautiful memories."},{"start":141.82,"end":143.53,"text":"We were rather overcome by it all."},{"start":144.63,"end":147.01,"text":"Do you have a car?"},{"start":147.97,"end":151.68,"text":"I don't have a car, no."},{"start":152.02,"end":154.86,"text":"I don't think so."},{"start":154.94,"end":159.04,"text":"I think we're supposed to get a car here."},{"start":165.94,"end":167.27,"text":"Oh, sure, we encourage that."},{"start":167.39,"end":168.03,"text":"Sure, sure."},{"start":168.05,"end":172.55,"text":"Come on, you've got a chance to get the best when you're on this place."},{"start":172.61,"end":175.19,"text":"Goodbye, and we're just so nice to see you."},{"start":176.01,"end":180.15,"text":"And, uh, all your friends."},{"start":180.19,"end":180.51,"text":"Well..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon and First Lady Pat Nixon hosted Reader’s Digest founders DeWitt and Lila Wallace in the Oval Office for a brief social visit. 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