{"conversationCode":"660-013","tapeNumber":660,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-660-013","startDateTime":"1972-01-29T17:12:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-29T17:15:00.000Z","startDate":"29-Jan-1972","startTime":"12:12 PM","endDate":"29-Jan-1972","endTime":"12:15 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On January 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, and Henry A. Kissinger met in the Oval Office of the White House from 12:12 pm to 12:15 pm. 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Kissinger entered at an unknown time after 12:12 pm.\n\n     The President’s forthcoming trip to the People’s Republic of China [PRC] trip\n          -Preparation\n               -Reading\n                      -Book on Chinese manners\n                      -James [?] Monroe\n                      -Background\n\n     Dinner attended by Kissinger, January 28, 1972\n          -Anatoliy F. Dobrynin\n          -Milton Viorst\n                -Peter G. Peterson\n\n     Criticism of the President\n            -Katharine L. Graham’s call to Kissinger\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n                 -Editorials in Washington Post\n                 -Possible request for call to editorial writer\n                       -Response by Kissinger\n\nThe President, et al. left at 12:15 pm.","filename":["660-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:41:21","tapeEnd":"03:45:03","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"660-012","nextCode":"660-014","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.01,"text":"Pat agrees that you have a problem on Vietnam."},{"start":1.03,"end":2.67,"text":"He argues strongly that we should not do a press conference on domestic violence."},{"start":2.69,"end":4.62,"text":"The questions will be budget deficit, Romney's housing, busing, Romney's resignation, and Anderson's."},{"start":16.75,"end":18.67,"text":"He says, unless you've got something you want to say, they're going to threaten us."},{"start":18.73,"end":19.91,"text":"Well, that's one of the stories that's being pushed."},{"start":19.93,"end":21.71,"text":"His point is, unless you've got something you want to say, they're going to threaten us."},{"start":21.73,"end":22.41,"text":"This is just about Chinese class."},{"start":22.43,"end":23.57,"text":"And here is an interesting fact about Monroe's meetings"},{"start":48.43,"end":49.41,"text":"I think I would rather leave those with you."},{"start":49.43,"end":50.55,"text":"That's why I don't like to keep these folks around."},{"start":50.57,"end":52.87,"text":"You know, it doesn't get as good once it's just, uh, my moments, uh, uh, my moments with my, uh, background."},{"start":76.73,"end":77.39,"text":"Well, hey, give me a hug."},{"start":77.41,"end":78.01,"text":"Give me a hug."},{"start":78.07,"end":79.33,"text":"Oh, I can't do that."},{"start":79.35,"end":82.29,"text":"Well, you know, it's a, uh, it's a tension that you're going to see."},{"start":82.31,"end":84.08,"text":"Well, I'm glad you went to the party I was signing."},{"start":84.42,"end":85.64,"text":"Well, they had it set for the three of us."},{"start":94.78,"end":96.58,"text":"They were eating out of my hand."},{"start":109.18,"end":115.19,"text":"Ah, and when Kate Graham calls, you apologize when I ignore you and say, but I thought you were a good lawyer."},{"start":115.21,"end":115.49,"text":"I won't do it."},{"start":115.51,"end":116.13,"text":"I don't think it's right."},{"start":116.15,"end":118.03,"text":"Well, I don't think it's right."},{"start":118.05,"end":118.47,"text":"It's pretty good."},{"start":118.49,"end":119.79,"text":"But she said that I'm a good lawyer."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon, H. R. Haldeman, and Henry Kissinger met to discuss domestic political strategy and preparations for the President's upcoming trip to the People's Republic of China. Haldeman advised against holding a press conference, warning that the administration would face aggressive questioning on sensitive issues like the budget deficit, Vietnam, and various controversies involving George Romney and Jack Anderson. The group also addressed recent press criticism, specifically discussing Kissinger's interactions with Washington Post publisher Katharine Graham.","topics":["China relations","Press relations","Domestic policy","Vietnam War","Katharine Graham","H. R. 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