On January 29, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Idanell ("Nellie") (Brill) Connally met in the Oval Office of the White House from 8:35 am to 8:50 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 660-004 of the White House Tapes.
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Hello?
Yeah.
Hello?
Good morning, I just wanted to call to see how John was.
He's got a little touch of glue.
In Minskoff.
And did he hit you too?
Oh, gosh.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, well, listen, we didn't care about that.
I mean, we knew you had a lot of fun, but I heard it yesterday at noon, and we didn't swear again, but it's probably only that damn flu that's going around.
You know, it's, according to Ryland, who was telling me that the caution is really about an epidemic for humans.
So it's in various places.
Well, Dr. Armstrong, sorry to hear it.
Where do you do it?
Do you just stay in and stay close to home, then?
That's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've got it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
What it costs you, it must be, I don't know.
It's anybody taking a look or you don't know.
You just wear it out.
And they don't help.
That thing is, they have exactly the same idea.
You just sort of wear it out.
But it's, there is an epidemic, you know, with the damn stuff going around.
Yep.
Yep.
I talked to Rob about Wednesday, and he said it's in New York.
It's just about one on the tree.
And at this dinner last night, we had it for the waltzes up.
You know, everybody wants to come to the White House.
12 out of 100 canceled the day before.
And these are people that are, you know, they live in Franklin.
Now, they're living in Franklin.
They've been planning.
They bought their dresses, their gowns, and they told their friends.
And they all had to move.
This is from New York.
This is from New York.
So I just hate to hear it.
But when you're doing well down on the market, what can go wrong with that?
Did you see what's happening with the other thing?
Keith Hunson came through the line, the former head of it.
No, not Keith Hunson, he did, but Don Reed of the big firm.
And I said, Don, this is a good thing I got you here to watch when the market went up.
And he says, what?
He says, you tell John Conlon, and I'm going to tell you.
He says, don't you worry about the market.
He says, that market's strong.
And I said, well, what about this dividend?
He says, that's where the market is.
But in that interesting aspect, he was very, very strong.
He said, the other 2,500 shares, which, of course, that seems to be very significant to those solace men, because they think folks are getting into the marketing campaign.
But the main thing we have to figure is this.
Don't worry about it, you know.
It's this worrying about up and down that I think is foolish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, and also not in the market.
Everything else, we worry about, well, what was the CPI this week, and how much was on its insured unemployment, where retail sales up or down, and so forth.
And remember, old Churchill's been talking about popularity.
He says, if I ever make my decisions based on the figure, by taking my temperature with a gallop all the way, every week, he says, I couldn't be prime minister.
Oh, you're right.
You can't do that.
Well, I'm just starting here.
And, you know, I'm sitting up here where you'd like to be down there.
I don't know, but we'll... Oh, you do?
You sound mad.
You sound... Well, I mean, I can tell.
You've got to get old.
Yeah, that's right.
It'll pass.
It'll pass.
You'll feel miserable, and they're going to die, or whatever, die to the damage.
But in the day, you know, we've got this woman who was on the council's staff on the price commission.
And I think that's a great idea.
They say she's pretty, too.
Yeah.
So I said, that's old me.
I'm starting to put her on the council.
Well, the thing that I had not known until that first date, that Stein was hiring her because she'd been on the staff, had been on the staff of the senior economists for a year, and had been so good, they pointed her to Christ Commission.
She's the wife of a Pittsburgh professor.
But the other thing I checked out, they said, I learned the first time that she is the daughter of Dr. Paul Monfort von Reimann, who
was the grain of the nuclear
And, of course, a major author of economics, mathematics, one of the great geniuses.
And they say that Jesus is just as smart as he is.
And I remember when he used to greet us during the Eisenhower administration, he was one of the most impressive men in the world.
So, you know, and not to always take people on the basis of who their fathers were, but this fellow, I just know, you know, this woman, she is just a woman.
She's supposed to be one of the really able women in this business.
signed, said an interesting thing.
I said, well, what about this?
He said, well, I got to be very honest with you.
I said, why don't you get Maulvaina Whitman?
He said, she's the number one.
And then you have to go down 100 before you get another one that would even rank number two.
So she's apparently outstanding.
So anyway, I'm glad.
Yeah.
Neither did I. I said, oh, I'm a for a woman, for a woman's sake.
If this woman has got it, I will.
And of course, Stein is proud of her.
I'll bet she gets a new job.
Yeah.
Three people with a strong man running it.
That's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
Well, I'll meet you on the phone and all that.
Oh, you've got a minute.
You pick up the page for your evening.
You missed one of the most interesting things.
We had to rate a ton of singers.
And before they came on the stage, one girl carried on her waist, because they're about 16 years.
And they're all pretty girls.
guys and so forth.
The consignors are kind of squared actually.
And she stepped out the front into the shop with everybody and hung out a homemade sign on the floor saying, stop the killing.
And she says, Mr. President, stop the killing.
If you believe in Jesus Christ, stop the killing of men, animals, children in Vietnam.
And she said, God bless Daniel Ellsberg.
God bless the bearing of predators.
And it's a fact.
Well, you can't imagine the shock.
I mean, you remember they heard the get thing?
Yeah, you read it in the Post this morning.
And even there, it's a bitch.
And they always go, well, then what happened is, poor Ray Connick came out on his, and they had their first number.
And there was icy coldness, nobody in that crowd.
Well, my class, of course.
But very good.
And then Connor says, I just want you to know that I didn't plan that first act.
And he says, we're all most proud to be here at the White House, and so forth.
And then somebody in the crowd, I think it was old Jack Mulcahy, he says, well, then act one.
room to my other basement, said, throw the bomb out.
Throw her out.
And several people said, throw her out.
So Antonin, on his own, asked her to leave.
And she left.
This way, this happened at the White House last night.
You come with me.
I asked Manolo, you know, about it, and I always get, he's my man to check.
I said, Manolo, what do you think?
He said, do you know anything I heard about your, about your, about the 7 o'clock news?
No.
He said she didn't pass, but now they could bring it up a little.
You know the Spanish have wonderful profanity.
And she said, she said, he's a big loser.
And I, I know that.
He said, he's a, he's a daughter of a whore.
And he says, no, she's worse.
He says, well, she's a little loser.
She's a great big whore.
But I don't know what the heck they're coming to, buddy.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I tell you, several of them were ready.
And so I did that and smiled.
Oh, I did one thing at the end, and I think you appreciate I didn't pay as much attention as I could.
And at the end, though, I walked up and thanked Marie Connors.
And I turned to the other girls, and I said, we were so enjoying your music.
It's always nice to have our music look so pretty, because they were pretty girls.
And I turned to the audience, and I said, we hope
Ray Conant will have a great success in the next 50 or 50 years.
The speech I just had is in the last 50 years.
And this is thanking him and his very fine Marksville group.
I know, too, that because the Marine Marks here had played the compliment, that all of us would want to express our appreciation and our thanks to the fine Marines who have played the compliment.
most of whom had fought for America and Vietnam.
Boy, that place came apart.
So I had to do a confrontation job.
But what do you think?
Of course, I was worried when I asked about common orders in your office, and I almost got up.
I told Pat later, almost got up and said, hey, I'd better stop.
But I was afraid if I tried to stop her that I didn't know the whole group.
I thought maybe the whole man group was going to walk out.
And they didn't, all the rest of them were in tears and apologetic.
She's not a regular member of the group.
They were one short.
He brought her in.
He wouldn't have stopped her from being thrown out.
See, Connick threw her out.
We didn't.
But he invited her to leave.
Oh, it would have been great.
The oil was all slippery.
Well, anyway, anyway.
Yeah.
And you give us a little, a little swear words, I'm sure.
Okay?
Okay.
Well, get well.
Good.
Well, I'm going to stay here today until about noon.
And, uh,
He is.
He was here at the time.
Oh, he was there.
By golly, yes.
And Billy and Bruce both.
Yeah, yeah.
And I wish he would because he's here.
Oh, there's quite a gang.
Bob Wolf was there.
He spoke.
And, oh, he had a weird name.
Billy spoke.
Martin Peel did.
He was a good old-time legend.
Well, anyway, you just take care.
Take care.
I'll do it.
I'll end up.
We're done.
on that we do not have to worry about the date of the last thing because so what I would like for you all to do is pick the date that fits your wedding best and if it's Nellie was saying May 1st but if if they did April 15th
And then we're going to go to Moscow, and everybody will be, you know, it'll be nice to talk with folks a little about the church and so forth.
So we'd rather have a letter in our park, right, rather than the park building over the clock.