{"conversationCode":"661-008","tapeNumber":661,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-661-008","startDateTime":"1972-01-31T21:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-01-31T21:04:00.000Z","startDate":"31-Jan-1972","startTime":"4:03 PM","endDate":"31-Jan-1972","endTime":"4:04 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On January 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 4:03 pm and 4:04 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 661-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 661-8\n\nDate: January 31, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:03 pm and 4:04 pm\n\fLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     Request for meeting with Ronald L. Ziegler\n         -Forthcoming announcement\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 4:04 pm.","filename":["661-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:32:27","tapeEnd":"02:32:57","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"661-007","nextCode":"661-009","transcript":[{"start":1.72,"end":2.04,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.08,"end":3.08,"text":"Listen, B, would you get a..."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon summoned his aide, Stephen B. Bull, to request a meeting with White House Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The discussion was centered on preparing for an impending administrative announcement. Bull was tasked with facilitating this coordination with Ziegler before departing the Oval Office.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","White House communications","Press operations","Administrative announcements"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T02:09:37.357Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","white-house-communications","press-operations","administrative-announcements"],"audioDurationSec":10,"audioFiles":[{"file":"661-008.mp3","bytes":421926,"durationSec":10.42,"bitrate":323947,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.978Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/661-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/661-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/661/conversation-661-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}