{"conversationCode":"664-001","tapeNumber":664,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-664-001","startDateTime":"1972-02-02T13:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-02-02T14:10:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Feb-1972","startTime":"8:51 AM","endDate":"2-Feb-1972","endTime":"9:10 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 8:51 am and 9:10 am. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 664-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 664-1\n\nDate: February 2, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 8:51 am and 9:10 am\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 20-16]","filename":["664a.mp3","664b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:15:41","tapeEnd":"00:16:51","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"663-008","nextCode":"664-002","tapeTranscriptFile":"664a.mp3,664b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":948.25,"end":950.48,"text":"I mean from a domestic standpoint, that's all he writes about domestic politics."},{"start":950.5,"end":950.94,"text":"No, virtually no."},{"start":953.52,"end":955.36,"text":"No, we get away with that."},{"start":956.6,"end":962.4,"text":"When I talked to Nelson about Keating yesterday, he was babbling all over the place."},{"start":962.42,"end":963.93,"text":"It was a tremendous thing to watch."},{"start":966.39,"end":968.31,"text":"You know something that we've got to bear in mind?"},{"start":968.33,"end":980.6,"text":"I don't want everything I know, job, whatever, but the... the... the character challenge is just when I have one massive"},{"start":982.82,"end":985.64,"text":"I don't think it's going to be unfavorable."},{"start":986.28,"end":987.68,"text":"I just can't."},{"start":987.78,"end":990.36,"text":"It's going to be favorable."},{"start":990.38,"end":995.54,"text":"Unless these Chinese let us down completely, they're going to let these people in cotton wool."},{"start":997.1,"end":1006.44,"text":"It's just going to be such a... You've laid the groundwork awfully well for this."},{"start":1007.42,"end":1010.07,"text":"This is an opening, not a conclusion."},{"start":1010.09,"end":1011.44,"text":"It's not too expected."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":948.25,"end":1011.5,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon discusses political strategy and the anticipated public reaction to his upcoming diplomatic visit to China with a White House operator. He expresses confidence that the trip will be viewed favorably, emphasizing that the mission serves as a diplomatic opening rather than a final conclusion. The conversation also touches upon domestic political challenges, specifically mentioning internal frustrations regarding Senator Kenneth Keating.","topics":["China","Foreign Policy","Domestic Politics","Kenneth Keating","Diplomacy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T02:12:12.180Z"},"topicSlugs":["china","foreign-policy","domestic-politics","kenneth-keating","diplomacy"],"audioDurationSec":70,"audioFiles":[{"file":"664a.mp3","bytes":177528371,"durationSec":7396.96,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"664b.mp3","bytes":43392312,"durationSec":1807.95,"bitrate":192006,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.978Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/664a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/664b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/664-001","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/664/conversation-664-001","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}