{"conversationCode":"664-012","tapeNumber":664,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-664-012","startDateTime":"1972-02-02T17:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-02-02T17:43:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Feb-1972","startTime":"12:41 PM","endDate":"2-Feb-1972","endTime":"12:43 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On February 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 12:41 pm and 12:43 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 664-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"OVAL","recordingDevice":"Oval Office","latitudeEstimated":38.8974,"longitudeEstimated":-77.0374,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 664-12\n\nDate: February 2, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 12:41 pm and 12:43 pm\nLocation: Oval Office\n\nThe President met with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President’s schedule\n          -Meeting\n                -Timing\n\nBull left at an unknown time before 12:43 pm.","filename":["664a.mp3","664b.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:33:59","tapeEnd":"01:34:48","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"664-011","nextCode":"664-013","tapeTranscriptFile":"664a.mp3,664b.mp3","transcript":[{"start":5640.38,"end":5641.68,"text":"Your wife is saying that every member does."},{"start":5643.32,"end":5645.52,"text":"I didn't know he was sick when he was hurt."},{"start":5645.54,"end":5646.42,"text":"But he had a heart attack."},{"start":5646.54,"end":5647.24,"text":"Was it a heart attack?"},{"start":5647.26,"end":5649.4,"text":"He had a heart attack or something like that."},{"start":5649.42,"end":5649.58,"text":"I know."},{"start":5649.62,"end":5651.46,"text":"That's why I can't have it."},{"start":5651.62,"end":5652.4,"text":"I got it."},{"start":5652.42,"end":5653.1,"text":"He was sick."},{"start":5653.16,"end":5656.16,"text":"He had a heart attack some time ago."},{"start":5656.28,"end":5660.97,"text":"And he had to go hunting."},{"start":5661.48,"end":5662.77,"text":"He was a hunter."},{"start":5662.81,"end":5663.69,"text":"That's right."},{"start":5664.1,"end":5665.19,"text":"And he went hunting."},{"start":5665.57,"end":5666.05,"text":"Low country."},{"start":5666.09,"end":5667.13,"text":"And he had a heart attack."},{"start":5667.37,"end":5668.55,"text":"At a conference."},{"start":5669.19,"end":5671.03,"text":"Oh, it was in the 18th."},{"start":5686.74,"end":5690.06,"text":"My wife, you know, is coming with me, and she's got to start a Saigon."},{"start":5691.08,"end":5694.18,"text":"But certainly we've got word that King's out to check her back."}],"transcriptBoundary":{"start":5640.375,"end":5695.625,"startMethod":"silence","endMethod":"silence"},"transcriptConfidence":"high","transcriptSource":"bigtape","aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Stephen B. Bull discussed the personal health history and recent activities of an unnamed individual, specifically regarding a past heart attack suffered while hunting. The conversation touches upon the physical limitations resulting from this medical event and implications for future scheduling. The exchange serves as a brief check-in regarding the logistics of an upcoming engagement involving the President’s spouse.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Health","Logistics","Personal matters"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-07T02:13:14.338Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","health","logistics","personal-matters"],"audioDurationSec":49,"audioFiles":[{"file":"664a.mp3","bytes":177528371,"durationSec":7396.96,"bitrate":192001,"missing":false},{"file":"664b.mp3","bytes":43392312,"durationSec":1807.95,"bitrate":192006,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":true,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:54.979Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/664a.mp3","https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/664b.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/664-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/664/conversation-664-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}